| #1 [5th]Krebster (216.20.43.13)[13224] |
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| First comment gonna go read it |
| #2 T.T.Boy (ncache1.ford.com)[13226] |
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| Darn you Krebster |
| #3 [5th]Krebster (216.20.43.13)[13227] |
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Cool another report w/o pics that is still really good because it is well written keep em coming.
Ill ask again does anyone have any desire to see Warcraft2 BR's or do people mostly just want to see starcraft? |
| #4 (catv21268194132.stg.bxl.brutele.be)[13230] |
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nice no pics-report (i love it)
taking an island early gives you an advantage, because:
1.the enemy doesn't know it (or should not know it)
2.you can keep your natural for later use.
making a lot of obevers is a 50% of winning the game
Keep up da good work
and no, i only want to see starcraft BR's,
because in IMHO Warcraft sux.
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| #5 T.T.Boy (ncache1.ford.com)[13231] |
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Nice detailed report. I find that I can follow battles on Lost Temple without pictures because I know just what you are talking about. On other maps that I don't know it is harder to follow a non-picture report.
I would like to read some Warcraft Reports. |
| #6 Lemuroo (nor-90-60.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU)[13233] |
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and why exactly did you think he was map hacking?
the age old paranoia still persists.
personally, i like BR's without pics.
Battle shots don't add anything to the story.
but, thats just me |
| #7 AQD3[13234] |
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| I don't think he was map hacking. I didn't mean to imply that with my reference to prozerg. He used observers early and often. |
| #8 TheRubberDucky (dfiatx100-044.dsl.gtei.net)[13237] |
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| Nice br aqd3. Too bad I forgot your psyedoum on bnet lastnight, or perhaps you weren't online when I was =[ Bleh.. Off to work on my worms br. JOHNNY ADD A WORMS BR SECTION FOR MMEEEE PPLZZZZZZ |
| #9 TheRubberDucky (dfiatx100-044.dsl.gtei.net)[13238] |
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| Or atleast make a view all sceren. Duh. |
| #10 Johnny_Vegas <font color=red><i>(BR.COM Admin)</i></font>[13241] |
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View all screen? oh.. I added something called "Last 10 Reports" that shows the last 10 reports of any type. I think that'll work.
Also for Worms you have to use the "Other" category. |
| #11 Mark4 (strangers.bragg.army.mil)[13242] |
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| I agree with ducky. I think we need an "all" option. That last ten thing is cool as hell though. You'd better get me some red letters bud =] |
| #12 -=DarkHawke=- (stj239.nf.sympatico.ca)[13243] |
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That gives the toss more money than you, and when I play toss I go fast exp. Ah well, take a pic and e-mail blizz, they really help. They did it for me. As for the view reports? I think it now is alot WORSE IMHO. I think That maybe it should be how it was and IF there is a WARII:BNE BR then i'll just see it. Different sections was not needed, and view all reports should still be there... It's not nice JV :(. I'm starting to play sc again so I hope to see you on AQD3. Fast gives you more money :). MAKE IT BACK TO NORMAL JV!!! :)
-DH |
| #13 Mark4 <font color=red><i>(BR.COM Admin)</i></font>[13244] |
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| Apparently dark has been hitting the crack a little too hard. Could anyone out there actually understand what he said? |
| #14 TheRubberDucky (dfiatx100-044.dsl.gtei.net)[13245] |
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| I did. He doesn't like the current format. There have been 5 non-sc reports in all of br.com's history, and he went and made seperate sections for those games. That's just a bad move. Atleast bring back the different sc report sections, and add a view all. Last 10 reports won't cut it man. |
| #15 Eggfoo-young (r67h91.res.gatech.edu)[13248] |
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OHHH GOD MARK4... I can't beleive you insulted my hero like that. I mean... DarkHawke is so much the man that you have to interpret what he means... what he says will be different to all people. That's how smart he is. He lets YOU decide the comment. I mean... geez... if only more people could allow us that freedom the world would be so wonderful. I bow to your greatness DarkHawke.
Side Note: Anyone notice funny names in Broodwar lately? There's some messed up names people are choosing now. Just caught my eye last night. |
| #16 Eggfoo-young (r67h91.res.gatech.edu)[13249] |
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| Speech bubbles still suck... someone do a good report and show how speech bubbles can be used to add to it. Please. That way people might learn. |
| #17 Chargon (EPC113.Lib.UH.EDU)[13250] |
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Nice report, i enjoyed it.
I question the tactics used in this game though. If either one of you had had a mix of zealots and dragoons (instead of all goons) in the beginning u would have won the game. Zealots are cost effective vs goons, especially if u have goon support. I just dont understand this mass dragoon thing. If u mix zealots in, u save gas, they build faster, they are more effective vs goons, and they're cheaper. This means more temps or observers or whatever else u want that takes alot of gas. The downside is that they dont hit air, but if u have good recon u should know beforehand if they are massing carriers. Besides, you'll have more temps to deal with the carriers. On LT i would much rather have a bunch of temps than dragoons to take out carriers. The cliffs are much easier on templars.
Mark4: I'm clueless about darkhawke also.
Chargon |
| #18 Mark4 <font color=red><i>(BR.COM Admin)</i></font>[13253] |
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| Yes, right now we have mostly starcraft reports. The thing is, the staff here is made of forward looking people with vision. We're not going to be all starcraft reports a year or two down the road. You change or wither away. I think there is a market for reports from many games. This new thing is just our way of getting ready for the future. Besides, did anybody actually bother with anything except view all before? |
| #19 Silent Strike (217.freehold-06-07rs.nj.dial-access.att.net)[13261] |
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Zealots and goons beats pure regular goons when...
The numbers are small. The ranged vs melee effect starts coming into play when the numbers get large.
The zealot/goon force is not attacking up a ramp. Goons on a ramp own goons below in equal numbers and zealots suck at forcing their way up ramps.
The all goons player's control is not great. I read a battle report at The feared domain websight where {PH}twang started with an early expansion behind cannons/zealots. Kain-The-Feared skipped zealots totally and just used ranged goons to take down the expansion and proceeded to win the game by forcing the zealots to engage the dragoons without the aid of the cannons or he would charge single cannons with all his dragoons from an angle at which it was isolated. Dragoons in the hands of a great player are just sick early game. |
| #20 .Praetor (fjwilson.reshall.ucsd.edu)[13265] |
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True Mark4. And while I don't have a problem with you taking away the StarCraft categories, I wish you would put back a view all, true view all for all games. And should PL:C be other or StarCraft?
5th Krebster: Please, Please, Please, write War2 reports! |
| #21 Whoop (pool0119.cvx10-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net)[13267] |
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Good report but to me dual cannons at choke doesnt mean I can tech it means HE is teching and therefore I can safely expand. There isn't any tech you have to fear as one well placed cannons will stop dt and goons will stop reavers. So if he throws up two cannons you can expand - get 6-8 gates cranking and run his sorry ass over. Taking the island early is IMO a serious mistake for three reasons. #1 you can't maynard transfer probes there and while you can transport probes via shuttle it takes much longer. #2 on temple the minerals are spread and not placed for good mining potential. #3 while they ARE somewhat easy to defend the cannons you make there only guard that isalnd. If you have taken your natural cannons there are also guarding your main since they have to go through your natural to get to your main.
Carriers vs toss is about the worst strat there is on any map IMO becuase of templar and goons and scouts.
Finally it sounds like you could have reaver dropped him early. While he had a goon and a cannon if you bring 2 zeals and a reaver drop a zeal then the reaver then the other zeal. The AI will target the zeal that pops out first which will give you time to MANUALLY target your reaver into the probe line. You can either suicide you reaver and get off at least 2 shots into the probes or pick up your reaver and run after 1 shot while your zeals run interference. Against most players you will get at least one good scarab into the probes before they run the probes out of range. |
| #22 Whoop (209.179.226.193)[13270] |
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Good report but to me dual cannons at choke doesnt mean I can tech it means HE is teching and therefore I can safely expand. There isn't any tech you have to fear as one well placed cannons will stop dt and goons will stop reavers. So if he throws up two cannons you can expand - get 6-8 gates cranking and run his sorry ass over. Taking the island early is IMO a serious mistake for three reasons. #1 you can't maynard transfer probes there and while you can transport probes via shuttle it takes much longer. #2 on temple the minerals are spread and not placed for good mining potential. #3 while they ARE somewhat easy to defend the cannons you make there only guard that isalnd. If you have taken your natural cannons there are also guarding your main since they have to go through your natural to get to your main.
Carriers vs toss is about the worst strat there is on any map IMO becuase of templar and goons and scouts.
Finally it sounds like you could have reaver dropped him early. While he had a goon and a cannon if you bring 2 zeals and a reaver drop a zeal then the reaver then the other zeal. The AI will target the zeal that pops out first which will give you time to MANUALLY target your reaver into the probe line. You can either suicide you reaver and get off at least 2 shots into the probes or pick up your reaver and run after 1 shot while your zeals run interference. Against most players you will get at least one good scarab into the probes before they run the probes out of range. |
| #23 Alita99 (128.32.216.153)[13274] |
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I'm preparing a BR for WarcraftII:BNE... as soon as I find people on there willing to let me watch... instead of destroy my buildings/peons... =
The concept of a "non-aligned Press" doesn't work well on WarcraftII:BNE... yet! =)
Good report here. Shows that good reports aren't all filled with glitsy pictures (although those are good too *poke poke*)!
Non-standard build orders can work esp. if your opponent is too caught up in the "standard build order." You have to be ready for anything, not just what you expect.
Please bring back the "all" selection. Having all those games with no reports makes the site look bad (esp. if a person looking at the site doesn't like to play SC).
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| #24 Mark4 (147.239.118.3)[13275] |
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| We are bringing back the all selection. Exactly when depends on Johnny's motivation. =] |
| #25 TheRubberDucky (4.3.100.44)[13281] |
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| I'd motivate him by saying that I have a worms br coming out shortly, but that would probabaly motivate him to shut down the site. |
| #26 DoomDragon (208.157.109.26)[13285] |
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| Mark or Johnny: Could you modify the site so one of the options it has for which game is 'All'?(By the 'which game' I mean the part where its asking war2 or SC or whatever) I ask this because I want to read all reports, even if I have never played the game it's reported on. I just want to read all golds and don't want to go to the trouble of going to each catergory individually. |
| #27 UpgKakaru (212.198.59.97)[13290] |
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| dya ever stop writing BRs? :) |
| #28 T_Mac (216.154.1.20)[13292] |
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Damn you work fast jv! nice job on the site, though the colour's a little fruity
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| #29 Mark4 (4.3.100.44)[13293] |
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| I'm not really mark4. I'm just seeing if I can abuse jv's script. |
| #30 T_Mac (216.154.1.20)[13295] |
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Jv's WAY too clever for that :O
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| #31 Persian-POW <font color="red"> (24.4.254.3)[13302] |
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| Good report. |
| #32 Persian-POW <font color="red"><b><i>(BR.COM ADMIN) (24.4.254.3)[13303] |
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| test |
| #33 Mark4 (63.28.155.164)[13319] |
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| silly persian |
| #34 Persian-POW (24.4.254.2)[13331] |
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Taking islands on Temple is bad for anyone early game. It's bad for economy early game because you can't maynard as well. Also, you have to waste money defending it with cannons. Most of the time, taking an island is the same as handing the entire map over the your opponent. Don't do it.
--My retarded opinion (Don't listen if you want to win) |
| #35 [5th]Krebster (205.188.192.26)[13334] |
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| Persian didnt whoop say the same thing a few posts ago? |
| #36 anal-banana (159.43.254.220)[13336] |
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Great report. I really like your attention to detail. Inspired by your reports, I played a 1v1 on temple last night as TvP. I sent in a 2 tank, 6 marines, 2 scv drop on his natural cliff. One his cliff was a goon and a dt. My first tank died to the dt that was patrolling there before I got a chance to comsat. The rines and other tank took care of the goon. I set one scv to build a tower, and the second to repair the tank as I seiged up on the cliff. And the cannon at his natural started hitting my tank! I had made the fatal mistake of seiging too close. I lost my tank and the game.
After that I couldn't get a single 1v1 temple game going for an hour... sigh. |
| #37 <font color="#FF0000">Twip</font><font color="#333333"> (208.27.106.249)[13341] |
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| <font color="#FF0000" size="2">I have but one thing to say about this report, and that is I can't stand the new blue table background on the reports listing. Err..OK, so that was irrelevent, but oh well. I haven't read it yet, but the intro looks good. This guy owns. :D |
| #38 Persian-POW (24.4.254.2)[13342] |
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LOL, oops. Maybe I should read the other comments before I post my own.
<i>"Taking the island early is IMO a serious mistake for three reasons. #1 you can't maynard transfer probes there and while you can transport probes via shuttle it takes much longer. #2 on temple the minerals are spread and not placed for good mining potential. #3 while they ARE somewhat easy to defend the cannons you make there only guard that isalnd. If you have taken your natural cannons there are also guarding your main since they have to go through your natural to get to your main." </i>
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| #39 <font color="#FF0000">Twip</font><font color="#333333"> (208.27.106.249)[13345] |
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<font color="#FF0000" size="2">Oh wow, more than the little listing has changed (I just have the View All page bookmarked)...and that's not right.
Oh well...good BR. The strategic insights make them that much more enjoyable. |
| #40 .Praetor (fjwilson.reshall.ucsd.edu)[13580] |
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Whoops said carriers suck vs Toss. Ask Mark4 or Orcmaniac what they think of that.
MUAHAHAHAHA.
MY carriers, at least, own them =). |
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