| #1 VRAM1974 (depth.martinet.com)[14794] |
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| Man, what a ripoff of AQD3's style, but what the hell, who isn't a ripoff artist? Gonna post a screenshot of the battle tonite which accurately shows just how much territory I owned and how dead he looks on the minimap. |
| #2 -slappy (lewi001b-p2-120.cybertours.com)[14797] |
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first!
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| #3 TheRubberDucky (dfiatx100-044.dsl.gtei.net)[14799] |
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| Nice! This battlereport clearly rocks! |
| #4 NaiLz (liam.pekin.net)[14802] |
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PiX!
PiX!
when will u ever learn ( pun intended ) |
| #5 (40.hartford-08-09rs.ct.dial-access.att.net)[14808] |
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which was quickly replaced by another (tank) and 4 towers to discourage further acts of broodling.
Broodling range > Turret range, first mistake=]
Plus, if he was mined out of resources, you could of EASILY of just of made a victory fleet (12 devourers, 24 muta's, 12 Guardians, seems like alot, but with 4 (or was it 5?) expansions that should be EASY).
Hell, if you didn't wanna do that, you could just go mass queens and broodling EVERYTHING he had. Just use Defilers/hydra for defense and broodling everything else (SCV's included). sooner or later, he would or ran out of units.
Maybe I read it wrong, but how a terran player managed to get 12+ bC's (3-3 mind you) and support craft/spells out of just 1 expansion is beyond me, but I guess it could happen...
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| #6 Blank (40.hartford-08-09rs.ct.dial-access.att.net)[14809] |
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which was quickly replaced by another (tank) and 4 towers to discourage further acts of broodling.
Broodling range > Turret range, first mistake=]
Plus, if he was mined out of resources, you could of EASILY of just of made a victory fleet (12 devourers, 24 muta's, 12 Guardians, seems like alot, but with 4 (or was it 5?) expansions that should be EASY).
Hell, if you didn't wanna do that, you could just go mass queens and broodling EVERYTHING he had. Just use Defilers/hydra for defense and broodling everything else (SCV's included). sooner or later, he would or ran out of units.
Maybe I read it wrong, but how a terran player managed to get 12+ bC's (3-3 mind you) and support craft/spells out of just 1 expansion is beyond me, but I guess it could happen...
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| #7 VRAM1974 (depth.martinet.com)[14811] |
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Well aside from mining out his main and some of his mineral only expansion, he mined out the bottom right island so that got his BC's I suppose. He maintained them by eventually succeeding in taking his natural after many failed attacks by myself which I neglected to mention. But he did have BC's well before he took his natural.
I tried everthing except for scourge and ultras, believe me. Also, as for the broodling.... his towers were at the edge of his cliff so he had vision to the valley of death where he seiged my hydras walking by. But his tanks were behind a wall of towers. Even with queen range I was losing queens attempting to broodle there.
Bottom line is I still can't answer how he got his resources. I maxed out 4 resource nodes, and he maxed out 2. I just couldn't penetrate his terran shell... it becomes more and more obvious I needed scourge.
Heh, devourers... I forget about them. Can you say "Vanilla Starcraft player"? |
| #8 Strom (ext197.mosx.com)[14814] |
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A couple of games back I took out 10 3/3 battle cruisers + a wraith using 12 devourers and 12 mutalisks (all 0/2). I lost 2 devourers and 9 mutas.
Another thing you can do is engage the cruisers with devourers and then send in hotkeys of scourge targeted on each cruiser. The cruisers will be shooting the devourers so you get free scourge hits.
If you can co-ordinate it then pure -mass- scourge do ok vs battle cruisers. (By ok I mean you pay about 25% more than the cost of the cruisers to kill them.) It's micro hell to pull off, however, and if he has closely stacked his fleet it's impossible to target enough cruisers simultaneously.
Strom |
| #9 Fractal_Wave (proxy1.gvcl1.bc.wave.home.com)[14833] |
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Scourge get owned by crusiers, as one crusier shot kills a scourge. If the joker goes hard BCs, hard Devouerors are the key, with surgical use of plague to keep him on his toes.
Good report!
All the best,
Fractal_Wave |
| #10 |}ark_hydra (sdx-ca52-36.ix.netcom.com)[14845] |
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im an okay zerg player and i have a few sugestions. Sice you had soo many hydras u should have goten devs as soon as u noticed him going BC.
13+9= dead bcs :)
And if u through in some guards for the tanks and turrets while u put hydras and devs on his natural cliff to support them, then u could hit and run till he has no tanks left.
If he trys to hit and run with yammoto use ur devs to take out the vurnible bc.
I agree with fractal that scourge only work against bcs if u micro like a fiend, even then its not always worth the cost.
This is my first time commenting on a BR and even though im not korean my grammar still sucks so plz ignore the mistakes
Better luck next time,
|}ark_hydra |
| #11 (dTc)Hardey:::D (ledn0502-2.dial.wxs.nl)[14873] |
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| Sorry, but IMHO you really really suck if you lose such a game :) Or the guy you played should really be a terran-expert. I myself can stall a zerg, but zerg can just build a fleet very fast and than it's all over. Can kick in some irradiate, but that won't last forever |
| #12 Go (212.21.84.250)[14874] |
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| Terran-experts don't go mass BC ... in BroodWar |
| #13 Anal-banana (ns2.bridge.com)[14875] |
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2. I should have taken my 48 hydras and jammed it up Terrans ass while I had the chance instead of hoping Protoss would take care of the problem.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| #14 VRAM1974 (ch2blm.bellglobal.com)[14877] |
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| Well I know I don't suck, but I have hard times against terran in late game situations. But you guys are right, after he had mass BC's I should have made mutas, guardians and devourers... I just didn't think a plaguing zerg could lose :-P |
| #15 '=Annihilator=' (pppmt01-42.eisa.net.au)[14888] |
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Aw sick kant. Hey it's me, '=Annihilator=', the terran guy in this game, not -=Annihilator=-, cuz I didn't want to copy other people's nick using that -=(X)=- thingy. I think mine's better d:-)
As for some people calling me a Terran Expert, I guess I am pretty much one. That's because all I use is the Terrans, unless I want to have fun with the Zerg rush, which my attempts more or less fail. Too bad. As for my experience, I have little experience playing against human opponents. I commend Solisis for the great game we played. That was one of the most funnest SC games I've ever played in ages.
As for me getting that much Battle Cruisers, my secret my that I didn't pump the hell outta my units, unlike Solisis. I saved the cash I had, and in the end I still had heaps and went beserk with Marines after having little gas. I mined most of the bottom right base before he came in and destroyed it, that sneaky bastard, hehe! And then my only supplies came in through the little expansion I had near my main base. Too bad Solisis didn't successfully destroy it, after all those attempts, haha. He should of got some air units to take that out quickly. And that's the reason I had heaps of minerals left over. There were plenty of over places where minerals where, but Solisis didn't bother to expand or get his drones to mine.
Anyway, I should be off studying for my final year exams. Soon I'll be off to do University. Wish me well.
'=Annihilator=' - the crap ladder player. Hmmz
ICQ - 9202313 |
| #16 N/A (32.97.148.1)[14897] |
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Since you had massive resource control, perhaps infesting one (or more) of his expansion command centers could have done the trick?
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| #17 jeezumcrow (svweba03.statestreet.com)[14908] |
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wow, what a game, well I think that was a great comeback, hehe having survived athat mayn attacks in the beginning, with only 3 drones left.
I think you lost the game, not because you did anything wrong, but that in ffa, one player can build up an armada through 3-4 expansions, while the others are killing each other.
You lost a lot of time and hydras in killing the other 2, so if it was a 1v1 with the remaining terran, he wouldnt of been laughing:)
good report with blue headings, how do you do that :(
and fuck this crap about having to make a br interesting with picts.
well, if I knew how to put screen prints on my BR, I wouldnt complain hehe
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| #18 VRAm1974 (depth.martinet.com)[14911] |
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Well thanks for the comment, and for changing fonts you simply type in <FONT COLOR="#00FF99"> or whichever FONT you prefer. Remember to close your FONT tag or the color will remain.
As for graphics, you can do a few by using simple programs like ACDSee, the best amateurs program, not only for pourn :-P but also to slide through all your screenshots and cut, crop and paste your way to some lame jpegs which could help explain the action.
The reason I didn't include any pics here was that A) I am lazy and B) I am at work on a Linux box without any fancy programs at my disposal. Too bad you can't javascript in these forms or I could a friend to do a wicked BR using Flash. |
| #19 AQD3[14920] |
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| I liked this report a lot. I could clearly follow the action through most of the game. One thing though, BCs are almost the textbook counter to scourge. A fleet of 12 BCs will effectively be able to take unlimited scourge. I'd suggest that plague and devourers would be a much better answer, or devourers and mutas if you get a chance. |
| #20 Willzzz (pc67.cc.rhbnc.ac.uk)[15018] |
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| Yeah BC aren't very good at attack because they are so slow, but BC are excellant on defence. |
| #21 SaberWulf(fe) (ppp3.compuall.net)[15125] |
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Hey just wanna mention one thing...
since he had shitload of bats and medics under dark swarm, killing and mutilating and destroying and evaporating...ok ok ok you get my point :) hehe, killing your lings, why not DARK SWARM, BURROW LURKERS AND WATCH THE BLOOOOOD! Lurkers under dark swarm wouldve helped.
laters |
| #22 kent2 (138.129.113.195)[15201] |
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| I like the idea of a "victory fleet" for Zerg. (Something like 12 guards, 12+ mutes, 12 devs. Add 24 scourge to be brought in when necessary, maybe. Against Terran, better add in 12 overlords, in case of mass wraiths and medics with optic flare.) I often get to the point where I feel like I have the game won, but I don't know what to do to actually win it. |
| #23 Celedor (P27.ASC-MB02.QZN.SKYINET.NET)[15394] |
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| Hmm.. Devourer Muta would rock those cruisers. I dunno about the scourge.. But the victory fleet is the best thing to do. |
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