#1 [93335] |
| 11.crrg2.xdsl.nauticom.net |
| What the hell... first comment? |
| #2 AdolfOliverTits[93336] |
| wash2-70.res.umass.edu |
WOW
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#3 [93338] |
| 11.crrg2.xdsl.nauticom.net |
| Oh, note to any testers... if you've been lax in downloading the latest beta patch (1.7) grab it. It's a huge leap forward in overall stability, and pathing is better. This game, however, was played in 1.5 (which was still pretty stable) and that's why I didn't bother providing the replay. |
#4 [93339] |
| ACA68611.ipt.aol.com |
| I FRKIN WANT STRIFESHADOW!! GIMME NOW!! |
| #5 Nite_Moogle[93341] |
| 138.247.117.72 |
YRM owns
that is all |
#6 [93345] |
| ACA68611.ipt.aol.com |
So is Shrapmetal kinda like psionic storm? =o
and 10, btw :)
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| #7 WarLeaderJustin[93346] |
| adsl-64-166-111-63.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net |
| Early comment, off to read. |
| #8 Falcon[93347] |
| h24-66-252-151.ss.shawcable.net |
| I want the beta I signed up and I want the beta cause I signed up that should be enough for the beta right? |
#9 [93348] |
| 11.crrg2.xdsl.nauticom.net |
The beta is limited. More people will be added to the beta very shortly, I'm not sure exactly when, but it's very very close. We're pushing for as much stability in the next patch as possible, then notifying the people who have been selected for wave two.
After the game goes gold, there will be a one race demo, so if you didn't get selected, you can get a peek at the game before you decide if you want to purchase it. Stay tuned for more info. There were a ton of beta signups, and not everyone who signed up will make it, but, like I said, we'll take care of that with the demo.
Shrapmetal is kind of like psionic storm, but it won't kill units in one casting and isn't the kind of game breaker that Storm can be. The best spell in the game, in my opinion, is the Accursed's Leaping Blight spell which hits an enemy unit, splits, hits two more units, and those split to hit four more units. (doing less damage after each split)
I'd wanted to report a game on a darker set map because all the other reports were in foresty maps. Then, this game with John came up, and it was great, so it was a must report situation. (I made the map too, and John still beat me on it!) |
| #10 CKane[93349] |
| c209662-a.haywd2.sfba.home.com |
| Damn! So close to being single digit |
| #11 Zileas[93350] |
| STARCRACK.MIT.EDU |
YRM you rule. that BR rox0red. Gogo vale avatars nexttime. They turboown all ground
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| #12 WarLeaderJustin[93351] |
| adsl-64-166-111-63.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net |
| Good br, i should really play the beta once in awhile. |
| #13 Agent911[93352] |
| c209662-a.haywd2.sfba.home.com |
| Hi Zileas |
| #14 AlexanderYoshi[93353] |
| bgm-24-94-56-43.stny.rr.com |
This is what I love about Strifeshadow. You can win when you think you are going to lose... and you lose if you think you are going to win.
*tips his hat to Mark4*
Keigu,
Alex |
| #15 Myth[93354] |
| px2cv.gv.shawcable.net |
| Good Job YRM. Hi Zileas, See you in the forum later... |
| #16 mistears[93356] |
| sc-66-27-186-128.socal.rr.com |
| another ss report, another gold report. |
| #17 Dino Din[93357] |
| port-cvx1-202.access.one.net |
Damn YRM, Oak spiders on THAT map?! What were you thinking?
Great report though |
#18 [93359] |
| 11.crrg2.xdsl.nauticom.net |
The spiders did the job... and I could have used them to jump into JV's area if I'd been thinking more clearly. They'd have supported my unicorns nicely.
WarLeaderJustin, the new patches and builds are much more stable... you should hang with it and you'll see a lot of improvements with each patch (after all, it is a beta and not a finished product and it's evolving rapidly). Beta 1.7 is very good according to most testers and 1.8 is just a day or so away. If you get too far behind on patches, you have to load them instead of being able to auto install them from gamespy through our menus.
How's Navy life Breeze? Welcome back.
-YRM-
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#19 [93361] |
| cr665189-a.yec1.on.wave.home.com |
| look the minimap is revealed u hak |
| #20 <font color=yellow><b>Protophobic</b></font>[93362] |
| cm-24-169-216-188.nycap.rr.com |
| <font color=yellow><b>;) |
| #21 Shamar[93363] |
| port21.cvx1-gr.ppp.cybercity.dk |
really nice BR
#21 - haha :) |
| #22 Hype[93364] |
| 213-150-237-24.sol-dial.gci.net |
good effort YRM
this week has been one to remember for high quality reports
so the 2nd wave hasn't been started yet? hmm guess i still have a chance of getting in it *holds breath till being picked*
gw
-Hype |
| #23 Rysk_Spion[93366] |
| h207-3.vildanden.afb.lu.se |
Great report as usual YRM!
I just have a question: With these summoning units, can you queue up units or do you have to click each time ?
I am a afraid that a lot of time will be spend wondering if your cabalists have enough mana to summon that critical units....
/Rysk_Spion
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| #24 IG_Parchandri[93367] |
| netcache1-acld.auckland.clix.net.nz |
| Who would dare post after Casp's report? Only someone BRing Strifeshadow. :) |
| #25 Fractal_Wave[93368] |
| h24-77-0-80.gv.shawcable.net |
Masterful as always.
All the best,
Fractal_Wave |
| #26 Ling-erie[93372] |
| igw-se.astra.com |
As per usual, there is an annoying air of perfection around a YRM report, but i did spot one spelling error =/
Good one, VERY good report, and nice side notes again about unit abilities.
I sort of wish you'd compare the units in SS to SC so i had a better frame of reference (i bet you were tempted at times to do so) but plz don't (as you were). This is because they're two seperate games and cross-comparrissons make would it seem like a version of SC, and also, it's good to get into a seperate frame of thinking to read about/analyse a game report.
Basically, i think that you're looking at ~10 at the moment, as usual for a report of good quality. What bugs me is that it'd be extremely hard to better this, you're going out against yourself in the SS world.
BTW, if any other regular/ex-regualr BR-ers has SS beta then please do some more reports on it, as it's looking pretty darn good =]
Thanx for a good read. |
| #27 Ling-erie[93373] |
| igw-se.astra.com |
| Also, StrifeShadow.... GIMME GIMME GIMME!!!!! =] |
| #28 Cearas[93377] |
| proxy.pth.iprimus.net.au |
| Nice work, as usual. |
| #29 Franklin James[93378] |
| mkc-65-28-50-248.kc.rr.com |
| 31st place, I 0wn y0u a11 |
| #30 Astic-X[93382] |
| h24-66-251-138.ss.shawcable.net |
strifeshadow looks pretty boring.
sc>it |
| #31 y0urg0d[93383] |
| px2nr.wp.shawcable.net |
| awesome |
#32 [93385] |
| 63.79.72.15 |
| Great report Joe. I'm in a YRM report, that I win?? Is that a first? |
#33 [93386] |
| 63.162.53.253 |
JV, you and Whoop beat Orc and Lewis in "How Canadians Ruined the BattleNet" I believe.
There are some other SS reports, including 3 by SCV~007 and a few others that got high marks, I'm sure there will be more to come as the games are getting more heated and the stability is much better.
Just go to View Reports and click on Strifeshadow and it will list just those reports.
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| #34 AdmiralPlinko[93387] |
| roc-24-169-196-198.rochester.rr.com |
Ling: You missed the part where YRM referred to a Manowar as an Elemental :)
I didn't think that Unicorns and Spiders supported each other very well. I guess I'll just have to try it out sometime. |
| #35 Testosterone[93390] |
| mkc-65-28-57-231.kc.rr.com |
Nobody has mastered MS Paint the way YRM has ;)
hehe, great report man, very enjoyable.....makes....me........want to play a game i dont have (yet) :) |
| #36 Melfuaru[93391] |
| www.wayne.k12.in.us |
| no offense but this game looks like it sucks :/ ill stick with brood war till warcraft 3. You guys picked a horrible time to make it :( the game will ahve a 1 or 2 month hype, thats it. The BR was good yah, but the game it was done on sucks :/ |
| #37 iggy[93392] |
| intergate.spusd.k12.ca.us |
| i dont play strife shadow >:| |
| #38 CrackHeadJeb[93395] |
| mu-178245.dhcp.missouri.edu |
Melfuaru, do you have the beta?
Another flawless report, nice job YRM.
-CHJ |
| #39 <font color=yellow> |]agomar[93396] |
| webcache.BrockU.CA |
| super job . . . of course . . . gimme your autograph. |
| #40 aFTeRLiFe[93399] |
| 202.156.2.86 |
| Melfuaru : true, the graphics may not be very good.. but u can't judge a book by its cover. |
| #41 GammaRayBurst[93402] |
| q.ssl.berkeley.edu |
Wow, this was an awesome report YRM. The game was really amazing, as you said it would be. But I'm really surprised at how fast you did the report. Had you been working on it when we talked on AIM? Cuz if you hadn't, that'd be ridiculously fast...
-GRB |
| #42 GamerChickie[93404] |
| spider-mtc-tf054.proxy.aol.com |
| Rock on report...gw |
#43 [93405] |
| ct91955-a.richmnd1.in.home.com |
That was a cool close game. Much higher game quality than your last report. Since I gave the last one a 10, I guess I'll have to give this one an 11... :P
Good job.
And everyone, buy SS<i>!!</i> Trust me on this.
Dref
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| #44 +AnathemA+[93406] |
| phnxdslgw9poolB209.phnx.uswest.net |
| i want that 2nd round beta now :[ |
#45 [93407] |
| 63.162.53.253 |
Hey GRB, it took about four days in the evenings.
On one hand, the games are easier to report than Starcraft Games because you can watch the replay at any speed, any number of times, and from either player's perspective, while pausing, skipping ahead, and taking high quality PNG screenshots. On the other hand, the game was hard to report, because it's hard to report on a game that isn't well known to everyone. There is no common point of knowledge, like, "Lost Temple" or "Reaver Drop" or "4 Pool" that you can say and take for granted that people know.
I'd been working really hard on the report of course. As a small, independant company making a game for the love of it and to appeal to RTS online gamers, it's always an uphill battle to get across the "fun factor" of the game to people who may be sick of RTS bombs like Force Commander and a lot of the other bad multiplayer RTS games that've come out. Initially, the beta served mainly as a bug hunt, but now, it's evolved into more of a competitive balance study (though still being cleaned of bugs, optimized and improved), and it's been a real blast lately.
It's definitely a good thing when people get that, "Just one more game, then I'll go to bed" feeling and it's 2 in the morning.
To anyone hoping to get into wave 2... I wish you the best of luck. We are adding a bunch of testers so there's an equal chance for any of the random slots available. (excluding active Ethermoon Forumers who have participated enough to earn guaranteed slots of course) Remember though, if you don't make it, the plan is to release a one race demo at the game's release so that you can make an actual <I>informed opinion</I> (*cough* Melfuaru *cough*) having actually <B>played the game</B> at no risk to yourself other than having to learn some new strategies and units.
Thanks for the kind words and I really appreciate it from some of the top respected reporters I see posting!
Later,
-YRM- |
| #46 xld.aldogrez[93408] |
| spider-ti022.proxy.aol.com |
Wow, the yrm report gets all the old school people commenting, ahem, now that i sound like a random lamer nice report.
I see your name and I think wow, a yrm report, and im sure a lot of others feel the same way. maybe i should not put out a BR for a long time and come back with godlier BRing abilities to be like you =/ |
| #47 Roaddog~Wp[93411] |
| cr488464-a.pr1.on.wave.home.com |
| own. |
| #48 [P]aradodx[93413] |
| dsl0007.nas.net |
damn good report
hehe |
| #49 Dumbass_Mofo[93417] |
| h24-65-128-179.ed.shawcable.net |
Astic, Melfuaru...
if you don't have the beta, don't say that it sucks. Play it before you say that kind of thing. It's a good game, so stfu and get a life. |
| #50 Wisest~Yoda[93418] |
| pm3-1-35.boscobel.mwt.net |
i think you overdid the pictures... work on your writing
7 |
| #51 Mattkd[93419] |
| 00-60-97-d5-1d-d0.bconnected.net |
10!
i in next wave? |
| #52 Mattkid*[93420] |
| 00-60-97-d5-1d-d0.bconnected.net |
| = |
| #53 BOBBY357[93422] |
| spider-tp073.proxy.aol.com |
| sick, BREEZE is back :)! anyways, great report, as always, YRM. i prolly wont b selected as a beta tester, but i wanna get SS as soon as it comes out. SS OWNZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
#54 [93431] |
| 1Cust215.tnt2.petersburg.va.da.uu.net |
| Own. Very cool Joe, I'll have to whip Johnny's ass for ya when I get around to it =] |
| #55 ThieverIV[93434] |
| spider-wi081.proxy.aol.com |
| This is good, 8.5-9, but two 10? Come on, it's not THAT good! If someone besides YRM did this they wouldn't have gotten a 10! It was a very well done report, but not perfect! (That's what a 10 is, perfect!) |
| #56 Melfuaru[93441] |
| cc608728-a.spdwy1.in.home.com |
| YRM, Dumbass, and Crackheadjeb, i gotta go with astic on this. its basically a total rip off of starcraft. YRM, if you really want me to try it, give me the demo, i will give plenty time to give the game a chance. Lord knows i have it :/ Jus everything seems so jockish, there are also many references to WC2 and WC1.. its basically a blizzard rip off into cruddy graphics.. yah thats a good sum of it. I'm not gonna waste 30 minutes to dl a 200 mb file :/ specilaly of strife shadow. The best dl i ever got was Lineage beta. WHICH WAS OPEN TO ALL AMERICANS. very good game. YRM, as i said if u want to really convince me you guys made this game with your own ideas, give me the beta, ill sincerely try it out :/ bye |
| #57 Phobos_ColZ[93444] |
| spider-wg054.proxy.aol.com |
I think you're missing the point Melf, its not whether its based on previous games, or the graphics aren't up to speck, or what not: The question is, is it enjoyable. Ground Control had great graphics, and without resources it certainly wasn't a rip-off of previous games, except for maybe Myth. But it just wasn't fun. If Strifeshadow is fun, then it doesn't matter if its a sequel, rip-off, or whatever. Besides, Starcraft has given Ethermoon, like all designers, a chance to see what mistakes were made and to learn from them. Rip-off? Maybe. But it looks like a damn good one.
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| #58 unVytae[93450] |
| px2ht.ok.shawcable.net |
| Thats like saying Halife is a ripoff from Quake,or Unreal Tournament is a ripoff of Halflife. The graphics are lesser yes,But Blizzard had around alot more people,took alot more time and im pretty sure Ethermoon isnt even in shouting distance of Blizzards budget. But the stories good,the races are balanced and the graphics are colorful and clean they dont need to be stellar if the games fun. |
| #59 [P]aradox[93453] |
| dsl0007.nas.net |
To say that Strifeshadow is a ripoff of Blizzard's games is to admit that your head is shoved up your ass. Certainly the engine has similarities, and the game itself, due to the fact that melee units are melee units, etc., but Strifeshadow has unique units, a unique resource system, and a unique style of gameplay. You cannot judge until you've played the beta, but anyone who has an open mind won't pass judgement until that.
A thing with Strifeshadow that you don't see in 1.08 is player's conversations.
Don't know if Blizzard will add that. |
| #60 Dumbass_Mofo[93457] |
| h24-65-128-179.ed.shawcable.net |
CHJ hit the nail on the head...
melfuaru, if you want the beta, you had to sign up for it--just like everyone else...if you didn't, then wait until the demo to make your decision on wheather or not it sucks.
And did you really expect them to hand you a beta after the way you bashed their game without ever having played it?
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| #61 angel[93458] |
| THE-BEAST.MIT.EDU |
Well, I've played all kinds of RTS, and SS does for me now, what SC did when I first found it...to be honest I don't even know where my SC/BW cd is anymore...that's how good this game is...
do yourself a favor and invest in these guys...they really do give a damn and WILL give you a quality RTS experience with many new unique features...i hope it suffices to say that I don't even know where to start in describing how this game is different and better...
why are you still playing SC if you care about graphics so damn much? I wouldn't care if they were just colored, shaded, geometric shapes floating around the screen if the game kicks ass...and I'm also glad to say that this game looks pretty good and is getting better with every iteration of the beta...
give them a chance now so you don't look stupid when all your friends are playing and you have to swallow your pride and go out and buy this "War 2 clone"...
-angel |
| #62 angel[93459] |
| THE-BEAST.MIT.EDU |
oh btw melfuaru...war 3 will be nice...when it comes out sometime next summer that is...
-angel |
#63 [93460] |
| 11.crrg2.xdsl.nauticom.net |
The|ice, yeah, I agree that a replay is not as good as a report in my opinion...
I think it's cool that SC 1.8 lets you rewatch games. Replay has been something we've been doing in Strifeshadow since the first internal playable build last fall (with only two races). It's great for going back and catching the details you might miss, and can be included with a good report, but I don't think it ever quite replaces commentary on the game or the fun of crafting a report.
BR.com is here for a fun place to hang out and have a chance to show your stuff. I mean, look at Casper's awesome Flash report... Just a folder with a list of impersonal replays isn't the same thing.
It's fun to watch the replays at 8x speed though... I call it, "Three-Stooges Speed". Once more people have the game and the patching process is less frequent, I'll include annotated (creatively enhanced with audio, text, or graphics) replays to go with a report.
As far as RTS game graphics go... a lot of recent games with 'state of the art' 3D graphics and effects were fun in single player, but I didn't have much fun with them in on-line multiplayer, and to me, that's where it's at.
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| #64 Shepherd[93465] |
| res104a-013.rh.rit.edu |
Great report...I read it several times throughout the day, getting myself immersed into the new game... StrifeShadow...more reports passes by, I draw in details of what is going on...right now, the game is starting to build up into a big picture...of a new world and a new RTS game.
Melf: I haven't really studied Strifeshadow, but from what I am seeing, StrifeShadow itself is a completely different game, especially on resource management. Also, StrifeShadow itself places bigger emphasis on micro than macro, thus making the game much more different, as Starcraft has stronger emphasis on micro. That's what I could tell from several battlereports alone. From those BRs, I could tell that the game itself is completely different than Starcraft. |
| #65 The|ice|[93475] |
| s20-19.wayzata.k12.mn.us |
| yah YRM, it depends. Sometimes i'd rather read a BR, but sometimes i'd rather watch the game (replay). I didn't know that replay dosent show conversation as i dont know anyone else with 1.08 so i played with myself =/. Starcraft replay goes up to 16x thou &_&. Ahh shepherd more micro darn =/. I need game with more macro *_*. I personally care very little about the graphics. Ohh something looks über, big fing deal. I care more about playing. As YRM said, its all about online baby. |
| #66 Astic-X[93478] |
| h24-66-251-138.ss.shawcable.net |
| I do have the beta, you dumbfuck. |
| #67 Blarkarg[93482] |
| STARCRACK.MIT.EDU |
Hey Astic...
I've never once seen you in beta chatroom... how many times have you played it anyway? |
| #68 DrAwesome[93483] |
| 208.6.90.4 |
hey yrm hurry up on my rater tag! :P
anyways, this was great. pics, writing, game all grand. a 10.
just as a endnote, this one was much better than your last one (which didn't seem like a 10 to me :/) so GJ it was a good game and a good read! |
| #69 Melfuaru[93485] |
| www.wayne.k12.in.us |
| haha astic rules :) this game = blizzard rip off, simple as that. |
| #70 Wisest~Yoda[93487] |
| pm3-1-28.boscobel.mwt.net |
omg melf u actually like lineage
i downloaded it, ran it once, saw how people walk at 2mph and got killed by a monster in 2 hits
then i unstalled gg no re |
| #71 Mockdu[93489] |
| bus-76-96.arc.losrios.cc.ca.us |
| I d be lucky ass if i had this game.. man starcraft is geting boring.. there is no change in strats no more.. u know.. but even if mel says its a clone of starcraft.. if it had little challange and change of starts (Cough ** this game might own starcraft **cough) and thanx to people like yrm chj, drawsome, casper to keep the intrest goin in the game (you guyz rule). when is this game gonna be released.. gonna go buy it first day comes out.. Btw mel stop complainin thats all i see u do every time on this great site. |
| #72 [93492] |
| user-38lc0pb.dialup.mindspring.com |
| you guys need to have an open beta or something. |
| #73 [93493] |
| user-38lc0pb.dialup.mindspring.com |
| it would solve any problems of only like 20 people being on at a time. i'd definitely check this game out. |
| #74 ()xygen[93497] |
| ppp-02-2-08.dialip.rit.edu |
| lol crackheadjeb, you dumb ass. "tact" doesn't sell video games. lol. melfuaru, astic = funny stuff, and true too. |
| #75 BOBBY357[93498] |
| spider-wk051.proxy.aol.com |
| um, astic, melf, all u other dumbfucks... plz shut the hell up. every1 is sick of ur incesent pissing and moaning about the game. thx. |
| #76 Epydemyk[93499] |
| 64.240.52.165 |
| Great report, hope I make it into the second beta. Why in your Manowar picture is one of the units gold while all the others are green? |
| #77 CrackHeadJeb[93503] |
| mu-178245.dhcp.missouri.edu |
Oh, and I know you're going to react to the Diablo2-ish line in a lame way ()xygen, so I just meant graphics-wise it looked like that.
-CHJ |
| #78 Melfuaru[93504] |
| cc608728-a.spdwy1.in.home.com |
| Why are you guys so worried about our oppinion? If it is so wrong, then don't argue it. I'm sure only 1 or 2 of you have even played the game. Specially those yelling at me. Bobb, CHJ, I know you dont have the beta so dont judge my oppinion. And next time, use the word Tact correctly, thx gw. Yoda, Lineage is fun :) you just gotta beg an hour to get stuff from ppl so u can lvl :)btw i got a DL accelorator for my cable modem, im dl'ing at 450kb a second! SWEET! |
| #79 CrackHeadJeb[93505] |
| mu-178245.dhcp.missouri.edu |
Melfuaru
Oh, I'm totally sorry that I used the word tact incorrectly. I didn't know you were acting like a prick on purpose. Well, I guess I should've known with your crap/spam AIM battlereport with you and Frost and your general disdain for the NH community.
And I will judge your opinion. Since you don't have the beta, you don't have a clue what you're talking about when you say Strifeshadow is, "a total rip off of starcraft." I do not have the beta, but I don't have to have it to say that your assessment of a game that you have never played before is simply pure shit.
-CHJ |
| #80 Phobos_ColZ[93509] |
| spider-mtc-tf064.proxy.aol.com |
| My HTML > all |
| #81 DrAwesome[93510] |
| PPP-155-11.va.sprint-hsd.net |
seriously its a really fun game. melf what it looks like has nothing to do with what it plays like. the similarities to sc are obvious, but its not like an expansion pack. pls play the game before you judge
astic just doesnt like it :[ too bad, maybe you just need to play more |
| #82 IGGY[93528] |
| adsl-64-167-12-218.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net |
| HASNT ANYONE HERE EVER OLAYED BULDARS GATE 2? PFFF, THAT GAME ROOALZ |
| #83 Rysk_Spion[93559] |
| bach.ludat.lth.se |
THIS GAME SUCKS!! THIS IS A CRAPPY GAME!! A RIPOFF!
But hey guys, if you give me the beta, I might change my mind. The true reason I am angry is that you havn't given me the beta. And I think I am more important than most people here so...
Melfauru, everyone can see that you are just begging for the beta, you are pathetic.
-RJ
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| #84 BLeH[93576] |
| sttldslgw9poolC206.sttl.uswest.net |
Okay without having to go off on all the similarities or ripoffs or lack of superior graphics or whatnot; I believe I can summarize in a phrase why exactly Strifeshadow sucks ass and will continue to suck ass.
Strifeshadow has unicorns.
Nuff said, plain and simple. A game with unicorns has no place in any game library of mine. Not to mention Fantasy based shit is just that...shit. |
| #85 BOBBY357[93618] |
| 237.160.252.64.snet.net |
| yes, melf does have a point. he IS entitled to his own opinion, and we shouldn't judge it now. i think we'll have to wait til the game comes out to know how it is really is. laterz. |
| #86 BADKITTY![93623] |
| ss01.ny.us.ibm.com |
| In all of the screenshots I can see these beautiful buildings and practically invisible/hard to make out units with little or no detail... Is it because you're playing in some huge resolution? or is the game always that hard to follow :P |
| #87 BADKITTY![93624] |
| ss05.ny.us.ibm.com |
"#61 unVytae[93450]
Thats like saying Halife is a ripoff from Quake ..."
halflife is a ripoff of quake... just a better one... they even have TFC (team fortress classic) which makes it == to quake + graphics.
--Katboy. |
#88 [93667] |
| 11.crrg2.xdsl.nauticom.net |
Hey, what it comes down to are a few things that drive the work I'm doing and why things are the way they are.
1- The beta is limited so that Ethermoon can legitimately listen to comments from active testers. So, if someone has the beta, but never commented or even learned the units, they're the only one at fault if they don't see improvements they wanted in the end result. The beta is not a gold release or a demo just for your enjoyment.
2- Ethermoon is six guys with no money and a lot of desire to make a game. Last year people were saying that we couldn't even make the game at all. We've made the game and are improving it in a closed beta... if you think we should run things as if we have a staff of 40 and a few million to produce the game, it probably means you don't understand the situation or are one of those people who never accomplishes anything and therefore feels the need to mock others. (pick one)
3- I'm having fun playing the beta, and so are many other testers. These guys have a chance to help us make this game the kind of game they'll enjoy, and are taking it seriously, just as we're listening to our testers. If a tester doesn't respond to EM, they're worthless to us as a tester.
If you've had the beta since day one and played 2 games or less, you really aren't qualified to say you're a 'tester', because you don't even know what the units all do or how to win the game. (not people with legit hardware problems)
4- Hey, I know that you can't please everyone. We don't expect everyone to like the game. If you've already made an errant snap judgement, feel free not to read these reports... it's pretty simple not to click the link.
5- Thanks to everyone with an open mind about this. The Ethermoon team is just six gamers with some drive and desire to get this done... it could be anyone that does this. There were no other games but Starcraft that really captured the multiplayer fun, and we made this game because we'd want to play it. The focus of the play is far heavier on combat than SC, and less on macro and more on micro, but the games last 10-50 minutes and provide that same pacing and potential constant action (unless you and your opponent are newbies and turtle mindlessly). Turtling against a better player won't stretch the game too much either, because there are tons of ways to pick apart defenses if you know how to play.
I would bet that a lot of guys are going to like this game, but there is not going to be a risk of having to listen to word of mouth one way or another, as we will provide a demo at the end of the process.
6- Units are almost always running an animation, even if it's breathing. Buildings are sometimes animated as well. There are lava bubbles, smoke adornments, and other things that you can't tell from screenshots.
7- Every up and coming group of anything has something that influenced them. Music bands were influenced by older music bands. Writers are influenced by writers. Ethermoon was influenced by game companies like Blizzard and games like Myth, Starcraft, and others. Why wouldn't you choose some good role models? We have nothing but respect for those companies. Our game stands on it's own, but again, you won't have to take my word for it in the end.
Thanks to everyone who's shown support or even a skeptical, but open mind. We'll do our best not to let you down.
=) Thanks,
-YRM-
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#89 [93669] |
| ct91955-a.richmnd1.in.home.com |
Cheers YRM,
I just want to give a shout down to you idiots who put the beta away after the first couple of games. You guys are morons (well, maybe not morons, but whatever).
You know what? When I first started playing the beta, it drove me crazy. Pathing sucked, lots of crashes, games started slowly because of not much starting aether, not many cool features, etc. etc.
But guess what, because of us beta testers, most of these issues are getting fixed. The pathing is 100x better, I haven't had a crash in a week, and I've never had a game last longer than 45 minutes and all those games are pretty much non stop action throughout. Not to mention all the balance fixes. Everything we send to these guys, they read and seriously consider. Tons of our suggestions have made it into the game.
The reason Starcraft is so successful is because of the fact that Blizzard spent so much time focusing on making the multiplayer aspect fun and competitive. That is what these guys are doing, except they are really taking it to the next level. Those of you that have the beta and aren't playing are really missing out. And for the rest of you guys who don't have the beta, keep an eye out for the demo. That will do a lot to show you how little these naysayers really know.
Cheers,
Dref |
| #90 BOBBY357[93714] |
| spider-mtc-tg064.proxy.aol.com |
| what the hell happened 2 SC 1.08 patch?!?!?!?!?!?!? |
#91 [93723] |
| frasier.ford.com |
| Hats off and cheers to YRM and ethermoon and all that stuff. Another great YRM report. I am really looking forward to SS myself. After much internal debate and soul searching (ok not that much soul searching) I have concluded that this report isn't quite 10 material. I have a feeling YRM might agree, but I am not knocking the report and all the hard work and effort that went into the report and especially the making of Strifeshadow. YRM I know you have even better reports inside of you waiting to be written. |
| #92 xld.aldogrez[93726] |
| spider-wq014.proxy.aol.com |
| 100th comment is thx |
| #93 xld.aldogrez[93727] |
| spider-wq014.proxy.aol.com |
| 100th comment is thx |
| #94 CrackHeadJeb[93728] |
| mu-178245.dhcp.missouri.edu |
xld you whore. I was going to wait until someone posted comment #99 before doing that. =]
-CHJ |
| #95 SCV~007[93740] |
| d3o984.telia.com |
Not bad, not too bad at all...
I'm downloading the latest patch and will play games and be a good manner beta tester now, so hopefully Martin and the others will stop sexually abusing you for getting me on the beta YRM :[
He agreed however that maybe those latex nightmares pushed you to create better graphics and reports...
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#96 [93746] |
| 11.crrg2.xdsl.nauticom.net |
Thanks SCV, I hope you grab it, cuz I really enjoyed your reports.
T.T.Boy, I'm actually relieved that you gave this a 9. People were starting to bitch and moan, and I really was expecting some 10's maybe, but not a pure 10.0. If this was yet another 1-1 on Lost Temple, maybe it'd be an 8.5 or 9, but it's more difficult to report something new to the crowd. The first report probably got a 10.0 for being the first SS battlereport and because it's the first report where the author didn't just screenshot the graphics. That probably pushes the envelope just like Breeze did or like Casper did below with probably the report that will prevent any future 1-1 on Temple from ever getting a 10.0 (at least, I think so), because it's the pinacle of reporting that particular matchup.
But I didn't write this report thinking I'd get a 10.0, so I'm really glad the pressure is off, because it probably wasn't quite there to be in that elite list of 10s, so falling just short is appropriate. Everyone has their own opinion on rating, but that's mine. I did put a lot of time into it, probably 3-4 evenings, but that isn't as much as I've done in the past.
I hope you read this T.T.Boy.
Later,
-YRM- |
| #97 Mockdu[93751] |
| bus-75-82.arc.losrios.cc.ca.us |
hey YRM when are u guyz releasing the demo..
Yea this game is like starcraft, however, after reading stuff at eathermoon website.. its nothing like starcraft. Srarcraft is old, there is nothing much left to master in that game.. this game will have some thing to master and probably something that cant be made a fixed strat. You know.. mass dragoons, or hydra drop.. i look forward to play this game..
mockdu
Ps. have u guyz took consideration for people hackin the game.. |
#98 [93752] |
| frasier.ford.com |
YRM I am glad you agreed with my assesment of the report.
IMHO, a straight vote of five 10.0's should be reserved for very few reports that are breaking new ground in some area. The only problem is that, as you know, the raters don't get together and all say this one is 9.8, this one should get 9.5, and this one deserves a 10.0 etc. We have to vote individually.
The powers that be have cautioned us against voting a report a number to bring it's average to where we think the report should be. So I've been a long time advocate of voting in tenth's rather than units of one that would help with this issue.
Anyway all this is meaningless in the big picture of life. So keep up the good work, and by the way do raters get preferential beta treatment for SS? |
| #99 Breeze[93754] |
| 62.176.93.129 |
Hey YRM, there is no limit or pinnacle in battlereporting I think, no matter if it's a 1v1@temple or 4v4@Polaris Prime... and if there is we are all veeery far from it yet. It's weird that you said it since you're one of the guys proving that statement wrong ;).
Best of luck with SS, I hope you get the deserved reward for all your hard work. I really hope nowadays it's not required to have a big company behind you to make such a well designed game popular. |
#100 [93755] |
| 63.162.53.253 |
Yeah, good points.
Breeze, I'm just saying that the site has had probably 30% or more of the thousands of thousands of reports coming in as 1-1s or 2-2s on LostTemple. In the example you gave, of a 1-1@temple or a 3v3@Polaris (6 player map), suppose both games were very good.
If the reports were like Olympic Dives, the 1-1@temple would be like hitting a perfect, splash free, jacknife dive while the 3v3 would be like attempting (and hitting) a triple backflip with a twist. The 3v3 has more action, more things going on at once, more variables, harder to follow, and it's on a map that is less familier. This is just my opinion, but that added difficulty counts for something.
This report was a 1-1 on a fairly simple map, like Temple is, but since the game is new, no unit or explanation can be taken for granted, so it's harder to write.
Anyway, that's just my take on it, I know other people don't agree with that, so I stay away from voting on 1-1s on Lost Temple amd just trust the other raters to make the right call.
It doesn't really matter if a report is a 9 or 10, that rating is still good enough to tell the casual reader that it's worth reading. Really, that's all that matters. =)
I also hope it's not required to be a big company to make a popular game... thanks for the sentiment.
Later,
-YRM- |
#101 [93756] |
| 63.162.53.253 |
| T.T.Boy, drop me an email at yrm@ethermoon.com if you get a chance, I wanted to ask you something in private for a while but lost your email. |
| #102 CHJ[notemple][93759] |
| mu-178245.dhcp.missouri.edu |
hehehe. Down with Lost Temple and its 459817235672659823 variant maps!
-CHJ |
| #103 Breeze[93767] |
| 62.176.93.129 |
| =] Of course... just like you I only care how many people read and really enjoy the report. |
| #104 Mockdu[93793] |
| bus-76-69.arc.losrios.cc.ca.us |
yrm !!when do you guyz plan to release the demo.. let me know my e-mail is
Patel_chiragb99@hotmail.com thanx later |
#105 [93795] |
| 63.162.53.253 |
The answer for when the game will be has always been, "When it's ready." rather than some artificial date we might not be able to meet and leave people disappointed. We initially hoped it would take less time than it has, but we'd rather get a game done that we enjoy playing than rush it out. We're making a lot of progress with improving the beta.
Come by the Ethermoon site www.ethermoon.com for news and visit the forum if you have any questions about the game.
One of the regulars or a staff member there will help, although sometimes they give newcomers a bit of a hard time for fun. |
| #106 mockdu[93818] |
| bus-76-70.arc.losrios.cc.ca.us |
| yea.. hope fuly by december would be awsome.. well hope to see more br's pretty soon.. c ya around on b.net that is if i ever get a chance to come to ~nohunters |
#107 [93877] |
| 11.crrg2.xdsl.nauticom.net |
| We're closer than that... I'd be shocked if it took that long, but then, we have to do what we can to make it as good as possible within our means rather than rush it out. |
| #108 CrackHeadJeb[93934] |
| mu-178245.dhcp.missouri.edu |
*Merrily playing Strifeshadow beta*
Yeah, Melfuaru is an idiot. Kudos to the Ethermoon team for making such a wickedly addictive game. =]
-CHJ, beta 2 newbler |
| #109 Grendal[94473] |
| spider-tq023.proxy.aol.com |
| it definatly looks very good. Though i do have a question for you guys how exactly are you going to sell and distribute it? I think you could probably sell alot of copies but you need to get it to people. Aside from that it was a very good report of course we expect that of yrm by now :). |
| #110 Seiruu[94642] |
| d5090.upc-d.chello.nl |
The BR was kewl
Enjoyed reading it even tho I've never seen the game stuff whatsoever
it's prolly coz we're all sc/bw addicted fans but the graphics of SS look kinda...not "realistic"
I got so used 2 the awesome graphics of BW that I refuse to buy a RTS game which graphics is nowhere near as kewl as SC/BW
Coz then it's a given that I'm not going to enjoy it as much
as for the lineage fans
didn't that game go commercial 3 months ago?
try www.shatteredgalaxy.com
best free RTS game ever
and the graphics seriously rock
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| #111 willwinforfood[97377] |
| ool-18b81465.dyn.optonline.net |
first.
-wwff |
| #112 BLANK[102327] |
| 24.0.88.219 |
| U RULE YRM!!!!!! WRITE MORE REPORTS!!!!! |
| #113 Eradicate~Me[103005] |
| pa-millscreek2a-200.buf.adelphia.net |
| 11/9/01, demo comes out in 2 days. yayayaya |
| #114 jc pussyeater[103628] |
| oh-bryan1a-228.wre.adelphia.net |
| Well I think StarCraft is a whole lot better then any other computer game out. It very exciting and fun! They should come out with a StarCraft 2, with races, units, and everything. I hope you take my comment as some advise. |
| #115 Speks[111079] |
| p-uwmadison-out-1.wiscnet.net |
| StarCraft blows. |
| #116 demon_blade3[124790] |
| dsc05.ivn-ca-2-187.rasserver.net |
Speks blows.
#124 |
| #117 Coolass[142262] |
| 66-215-214-134.riv-eres.charterpipeline.net |
Bitches
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| #118 FRINED[144448] |
| pcp01780639pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net |
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| #119 raymond (banditten)[153583] |
| securebox.karmoy.kommune.no |
| i am the best off the best yea |
#120 [166703] |
| user-142o1pd.cable.mindspring.com |
| Ahhh a fine report indeed, 02/20/2009 |