| #1 sydane[3296] |
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| i am from hong kong too, i moved to canada 6 years ago. Anyway, he's a racist, that's for sure. He thinks that chinese are chink or whatever, that's so rude, i can't accept that. Chinese doesn't like American either, because of the kozovo thing happen 2 months ago, which america bombed the chinese embrassy(sp?). Anyway, just ignore them, there are lots of koreans on battle.net, see how many he can discrimulated. |
| #2 Mind Twist[3298] |
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| "Ignore them"? It'd be kind of hard to ignore every American on bnet, but not all are like the guy you came across. |
| #3 sydane[3304] |
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| Sorry if i misunderstand u, what i mean is to type /squelch to those kids on b.net, not american. |
| #4 Jigga``BK[3306] |
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sorry from me personally that you had to be treated this way
for god sakes people. This is just a game and and the only colors in this game are the ones on your units. Make this bullshit stop.
Screw color, we're all blue
then what would all these biggots do?
they would make fun of your shape or size
this is why we must blind all their eyes
Jigga``BK |
| #5 MikeyMonty[3307] |
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| It's a shame that there are people like that. I feel sorry you have to put up with this kind of crap. Just don't assume its all Americans. |
| #6 Etarenicni/PrinceCharming/Slicer[3310] |
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| I'm all for a <squelch all koreans> command. Let's face it, no matter how we'd like to hide it in politically correct bullshit, KOREANS ARE STUPID, and a few minutes on Bnet with them agrees with me.. they leave mid-game all the time, play true bullshit maps like YELLOW-HUNTER, and generally piss me off. And I know there's a lot of you who subconsciously agree with me but can't bear to say it out loud, because you think it's "racist". |
| #7 Etarenicni/PrinceCharming/Slicer[3311] |
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| Argh... that would be a SQUELCH ALL KOREANS command, but it didn't register because I put it in the pointy version of ()'s. Sorry. |
| #8 Lemuroo[3312] |
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Heh, personally, you white folks annoy me a lot.
I watch movies like Mississippi Burning and The Mission (all based on true events) and i wonder how in the world a culture that so dehumanizes mankind can become the dominant race.
Sigh, a question for the ages.
PS hehe, i actually just finished watching The Mission, and its usually a few hours until i stop hating whitey =) |
| #9 Lemuroo[3313] |
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well, if i was the dude playing you, i wouldn't have said that "you people do it best on your knees"
I mean come on, that works for any race. I woulda said something like "why don't you go out west and build some more rail roads!"
But then, you'd probably tell my korean butt to go and eat some dog meat, so maybe i shouldn't.
=D |
| #10 ralessi[3314] |
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| A squelch all koreans command... How racist is this? Come on, you are going by a stereo type. Not ALL Koreans are this way. It shows your ignorance when you make posts like that. You think that all Koreans are bad and evil because one that you saw played on a map called, "Yellow Hunters," and one Korean disconnected on you. This is not a very mature way to express your thoughts and emotions. Think if you were the Korean. What if an American disconnected on you? Americans disconnect too =D. That means all Americans are horrible and evil and stupid disconnecters. Maybe a few Koreans dislike your favorite map, does this mean that map is dumb? Read what I just wrote and then read your post again. Hopefully you will understand where I am coming from. |
| #11 Etarenicni/PrinceCharming/Slicer[3317] |
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Sigh..
Make that about 50+ koreans disconnecting on me, and over TEN THOUSAND YELLOW-HUNTER (and similar varieties) games. Wake up and smell the bullshit. Also, Koreans:
- will seldom play anyone with a ladder record one point lower than theirs
- don't know English
- think they know hacker-speak
- rarely understand the concepts of "allying" and "allies"
- have no minds of their own
- Are, on average, like very stupid americans |
| #12 MikeyMonty[3320] |
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| The Mission, that was a good movie. I always just feel guilty for a few days after watching it for no particular reason. |
| #13 (=)BvG[3326] |
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Repost to long/long/Slicer
Make that about 50+...
Here in DEU-1 (Germany) we say:
Don't play Amerikans they Disc on you and trash talk all the time... play Germans or Coreans they are Honorfully.
-will seldom play...
Oh man, I usualy play Coreans with 1200 or something like that, so they have to play peoples with lower Ranking.
-Don't know English
Whats that shit? Do I blame you because you can't talk German? Realy thumb.
-think they know hacker-speak
sorry dunnow what that is : )
-rarely understand... allies
hmm... muy usual game with Koreans are 3 Koreans vs 3 Germans they rush after 5 min with double the units we have and kill us. They're better team players than we are.
-have no minds
so they're death or zombies????
-Are ... like ... Amerikans!
They're Humans |
| #14 Lemuroo[3327] |
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i wonder where you got the point that koreans "have no minds of their own"
its especially odd since its coming from an american who on average watches 5-6 hours of television a day.
Hehe, now who has no mind now? =P
And the concept of very stupid americans. Considering some of the crazy shit that goes on in this country, considering how long it took us to even dream up the concept of civil liberties, and considering the South. . .
Moo
Oh yeah, The Mission was most indeedy a damn good movie. Its odd, but everytime i watch that, or a movie like it (such as the Grapes of Wrath), i always crack a small smile.
Its nice to know that things have always been this way, eh?
Government sponsoring of murder, cracking down on any sort of enrichment program for the non elite, and people selling their brothers out for their own good.
Hot damn i love the world.
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| #15 Bob the Newt[3330] |
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| Of all the koreans I've played, I'd say about 75% disced if they lost. This does mean Koreans suck, it means discers suck. I do think that anyone who goes into a brood-usa channel and doesnt speak english shouldnt be there, but that goes for american ppl in other channels too. But I hate racists more than discers anyday. |
| #16 QuantumKill[3331] |
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I do agree that racists are stupid and annoying as hell. But have you ever thought that patriotism would eventually leads to racism? Let me first tell you that every country in this world is virtual, they don't exist although they appear to be. What exists is a bunch of politicians ruling people in every country and the civilian inside. So, tell me. What do you like about your own country and why do you like it? And why do you like your own country but not the others? This 'blind love' will arise people's contempt toward countries other than their own, and hatre among people in different countries will be grown eventually. Remember that I mentioned that only the people inside a country is real? in this sense, patriotism leads to the hatre of more human individual than the hatre caused by only a few colors of the skin. The hatre caused by patriotism is more subtle than the hatre caused by racism. Remember the Chinese spies stealing US nuclear techonology a while ago? The media here said China used the patriotism of the chinese nuclear physicists, telling them giving the nuke info to them is to make their homecountry prosper. Did those physicists understand what they did is indirectly killing his own race?
Think about this, what would other countries do if China nukes oneof the countries on earth? Military actions will definitely be taken. Innoccent blood will be shed.The patriots think they're doing the best for their country. In fact they're just killing ppl indirectly while doing the best for something doesnt exist at all.
Well just my 2 cents. BTW being in a chinese community, I sense that almost everyone have a sense of patriotism toward china. And they just call the other human races racist names everytime when they speak of them. I'm absolutely possitive about this as I have lived in a chinese community for my whole life.
Peace out |
| #17 Tanglebones[3335] |
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I'm sorry that the subject of racism has invaded the Battle Reports page. It used to be a nice relaxing read while I ate my donut.
Anyways, give me a group of humans and I'll give you a list of their atrocities. Hatred and violence is human, not Korean, American or German. |
| #18 Mark4[3336] |
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| Patriotism: Why love any country? I love America for the ideals it's founded on. The principle of freedom. And of course, the american people. None of these is perfect in concept or execution, but its better than anything else I've seen. Government by the people for the people. |
| #19 Blank[3340] |
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blah blah blah.... it's sad, but this post will probably break the record for the most comments=P
Delete this crap, this isn't the "B.net Politics BBS" it's a Starcraft battle report site....
Everybody's got an issue=P
Blank |
| #20 GoofBall[3341] |
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| Mark, I was going to make some sort of statement, but you pretty much summed it up. |
| #21 BadGuy(tm)[3342] |
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From my experience with politicians... when one says 'people' it means 'nobody'. As in we're doing it for the people. People deserve to know. People's trust. Ugh, nausea.
Here's a good one: When an American feels good about his country, that's patriotism, but when a Canadian (or German, or Korean) does, that's nationalism?
Rhetorical question. |
| #22 GhOsT~LiZarD[3345] |
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| People who start to make racial comments out of the blue without you doing anything besides kickin' their ass are stupid fags. Yeah sure I got little pissed in my last battle report but heck at least I had a reason, he disced on me! Now that I look back on it I shouldn't have written it and it was pretty gay of me to do so fellow battlereporters I appologize:) |
| #23 Etarenicni/PrinceCharming/Slicer[3349] |
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Sigh, don't tell me you guys are infected with the liberal media bullshit too. I suppose most of you know that when a good, hard ass kicking is done against a newbie who says nothing and/or 4-year-old talk, lags a lot, and can't play too well, after the game we usually say "He was an AOLer" or "Must've been a korean."
Of course, I've been called the same things as any other long-time starcraft player. The list goes from fag and nigger to a practitioner all sorts of interesting and innovated sexual procedures, many involving incest, some physically impossible or possible only by a contortionist. What did I say in reply? Either laughter or various witty replies, all while I sent the 12 battlecruisers into the idiot's poorly-defended main. This is common on Bnet. Suffice it to say that the idiots usually lose (although some idiots win-trade and hack, but I don't want to get into a ladder players discussion as the same time as an ethnic one.. my typing fingers would hate me :)), and people who know what they're doing usually win.
But don't get me wrong. I hate everyone, it's just that I hate some people more than others. |
| #24 Helmintes[3350] |
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I knew a guy the summer after SC came out who was from Hong Kong, but he moved to Michigan before Hong Kong became part of China again. He was my friend on B.net and we played almost every day. Who gives a crap what race someone is? How can it even matter, especially on b.net. Im Turkish, I was born in New Orleans but I'm a full-bred Turk. Does anyone really care? I wish our generation ends racism by showing their kids how race doesnt affect a person. Ignorant people need something to believe in so their worthless lives can, in their eyes, have meaning. Just ignore them, they dont matter.
Btw, you ever heard of a guy named Lendlice? That was my friend, I havent heard from him since last summer. He used to hang out in the Honk Kong channel. |
| #25 Bob the Newt[3355] |
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| LoL, liberal media bullshit. I love how racists think that these ideas can't come from ourselves. |
| #26 Bob the Newt[3356] |
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| Hey, why do my comments always pop up in weird places? It was supposed to be after mr. 3names recent comment. Maybe the liberal media infected the post. sigh |
| #27 Mind Twist[3360] |
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| Actually there is only one race, humans. We are all the same, except because of having different ancestors we have different colors and live in different places, and we argue about it and insult each other because of it. weird. |
| #28 ralessi[3363] |
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| Slicer, all of the comments you have made about Koreans have been very ethnocentristic and I do not appreciate this type of racism on this site and I'm pretty sure JV and mark4 don't either. Saying that Koreans are bad because they do not know english is ignorant and stupid. If I'm a Korean I'll call you stupid because you don't know Korean. This is ethnocentristic and just straight out dumb to think this. Yes, I would consider Koreans to be very dumb IF THEY WERE AMERICAN. But, they are Koreans so you can't call them stupid Americans. Every Korean does not hack or win-trade to let you know. Koreans to Americans on battle.net has a ratio of 5:1, playing 50 Koreans does not say much. Just because 1 disced on you does not mean everyone will. The same thing goes with Americans... |
| #29 ralessi[3364] |
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| Slicer, all of the comments you have made about Koreans have been very ethnocentristic and I do not appreciate this type of racism on this site and I'm pretty sure JV and mark4 don't either. Saying that Koreans are bad because they do not know english is ignorant and stupid. If I'm a Korean I'll call you stupid because you don't know Korean. This is ethnocentristic and just straight out dumb to think this. Yes, I would consider Koreans to be very dumb IF THEY WERE AMERICAN. But, they are Koreans so you can't call them stupid Americans. Every Korean does not hack or win-trade to let you know. Koreans to Americans on battle.net has a ratio of 5:1, playing 50 Koreans does not say much. Just because 1 disced on you does not mean everyone will. The same thing goes with Americans... |
| #30 Lemuroo[3368] |
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Cool, just hopping on the bandwangon. =P
Mark4: the ideals that this country was founded on??
HAHAHAHA.
Too bad we live in an oligarchy run by the corporations.
uh oh, this better not start a new thread within a thread |
| #31 Alita99[3371] |
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[Wow, this response board is longer than the actual battle report. Does it get a rating too? =)]
Assuming the race of someone from their b.net names? How... juvenile.
So, If my b.net name is "Uncle_Sam", I'm Caucasian? Or I make a smurf whom I call "Mao" makes me Chinese? Maybe if I put in "#$%$%%^@%#*" no one will know WHAT race I am...
But, for the record, I'm a Martian... =)
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| #32 Smoked Pork[3376] |
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I was going to resist responding to this pointless thread, but Mark had to go and use the "P" word.
*sigh*
Oh well, fuck it, nevermind I don't care after all. |
| #33 [FLS]prozerran[3392] |
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To fellow raters,
Why does this BR receive a 1.0? At least IMHO this is better than the one written but that Shakurus whatever guy whom I gave the feces award. He got a 2.0 and I'm like "wtf?!"
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| #34 Etarenicni/PrinceCharming/Slicer[3404] |
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It appears none of you were around before the Koreans even came to Bnet. Well, I was, and I remember the good old days- the only people you could find on late night were the addicts. This is also when "mucho money" was a rarity.
Well, then the money maps came, and people like me got annoyed.
Then the koreans came. I didn't realize it at first. When I saw a game name composed of 2:2(some character map letters), I figured the guy was just on crack or something. Then, when I saw rows of these games, I realized it- they were presumably a foreign language on someone's screen. Now I had double the games to scroll through.
Note that I'm not being totally Americans only. If, say, a couple of European guys joined a 2v2 I was hosting, I wouldn't care. They'd be far less likely to gibber at me, far less likely to leave as the game is starting, and far less likely to act stupid. If they knew any English at all, they'd use it as it is meant to be used. But, we'd just do most of our talking in the international language; violence.
And as for telling the origin of someone from their Bnet name as "childish", that is ridiculous. Take 20 koreans from KOR-1, twenty Americans from USA-1, mix them up, ask me which is which, and I guarantee you I will be able to tell AT LEAST 80-90% of the time. |
| #35 GhOsT~LiZarD[3409] |
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| WTF A 1??????? This isn't THAT bad should be a 3 imho, plz dismiss the guy you played, not all americans are like that just the redneck ones:) |
| #36 Lemuroo[3417] |
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actually, mucho money maps always existed.
I have no idea where you pulled that statement out from, cuz way back when i started playing in season 2 i saw tons of mucho money bloodbath and hunters maps |
| #37 TheRubberDucky[3424] |
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| The first mucho money map I saw was BGH in october of last year... |
| #38 logic (++miro)[3426] |
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all ppl who defend the koreans tend to believe that we non-koreans are narrowminded and unitelligent mainly because we stereotype their race in an unjust way and then apply that to all ppl of korean background i however raise these arguments in favor of those who dislike koreans
1)koreans are not very inconsiderate in their actions directly or indirectly and focus primarily on attaining a high ladder ranking as is examplified in their numerous disconnects which to me serve as a statement that "i was just defeated honorably however i will not grant you the credit you deserve because i want to make my self appear better than you and will thus disconect and waste your time because i have no respect for your skill"
2)are not very intelligent...this is can be proven by their lack of understanding of the game as no korean has made it to #1 and also because they dont think of the repercussions following their actions as described in point 1
3)why would such a negative stereotype have arisen if they were polite and were not known as win traders and generally notorious players...i mean consider what our opinion of koreans would be like if they acted right i mean most ppl on battle net seem to hate koreans but why is that there is obviously a reason why not hate africans or ppl form switzerland or poland...
anywayz there is some logic behind it all so dont dismiss it as another sterotype for the truth does indeed hurt |
| #39 logic (++miro)[3427] |
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all ppl who defend the koreans tend to believe that we non-koreans are narrowminded and unitelligent mainly because we stereotype their race in an unjust way and then apply that to all ppl of korean background i however raise these arguments in favor of those who dislike koreans
1)koreans are not very considerate in their actions directly or indirectly and focus primarily on attaining a high ladder ranking as is examplified in their numerous disconnects which to me serve as a statement that "i was just defeated honorably however i will not grant you the credit you deserve because i want to make my self appear better than you and will thus disconect and waste your time because i have no respect for your skill"
2)are not very intelligent...this is can be proven by their lack of understanding of the game as no korean has made it to #1 and also because they dont think of the repercussions following their actions as described in point 1
3)why would such a negative stereotype have arisen if they were polite and were not known as win traders and generally notorious players...i mean consider what our opinion of koreans would be like if they acted right i mean most ppl on battle net seem to hate koreans but why is that there is obviously a reason why not hate africans or ppl form switzerland or poland...
anywayz there is some logic behind it all so dont dismiss it as another sterotype for the truth does indeed hurt |
| #40 [FLS]prozerran[3438] |
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OMG do you actually understand what you're talking about? All your three points are (1) based on no facts or logic (2) very biased towards your own thoughts (3) statistically incorrect, and lastly, (4) yes, stereotypical.
Try to read your own comment again carefully and you might find yourself on drugs before. |
| #41 Alita99[3459] |
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Welp, since I brought it up, I'll respond to it.
Concerning what "Etarenicni/PrinceCharming/Slicer" said above:
> And as for telling the origin of someone from their Bnet
> name as "childish", that is ridiculous. Take 20 koreans
> from KOR-1, twenty Americans from USA-1, mix them up, ask > me which is which, and I guarantee you I will be able to
> tell AT LEAST 80-90% of the time.
I'm sure under this controlled condition you suggest, you'd be able to tell since
1) there are only 40 names to pick from (as opposed to the thousands available on B.net)
2) once you've picked 20 to be "Korean", the remaining 20 by default, will be "American" (on b.net you're never really sure how many of whichever race of people there are).
3) Since it's such a small pool of "test subjects" you're margin of error will be .2 to .3 (20-30%) based on the standard statistical models on small test subjects. (which, BTW, is a very LARGE margin of error. Certainty principals dictate that a .01 or .005 margin of error can be considered "true")
You still with me? =)
To put simply:
Your approach at validating your statement "...as for telling the origin of someone from their Bnet name as 'childish', that is ridiculous" is indeed juvenile.
My point to all this is that you can't "judge a book by its cover". I can just as easliy act "Korean" using a smurf.
(!@!#Seoul : no rush
(!@!#Seoul : chobo
... and you'd believe that I was Korean.
And you'd be dead wrong because as I said before, I'm a Martian! =) |
| #42 Alita99[3460] |
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Welp, since I brought it up, I'll respond to it.
Concerning what "Etarenicni/PrinceCharming/Slicer" said above:
> And as for telling the origin of someone from their Bnet
> name as "childish", that is ridiculous. Take 20 koreans
> from KOR-1, twenty Americans from USA-1, mix them up, ask > me which is which, and I guarantee you I will be able to
> tell AT LEAST 80-90% of the time.
I'm sure under this controlled condition you suggest, you'd be able to tell since
1) there are only 40 names to pick from (as opposed to the thousands available on B.net)
2) once you've picked 20 to be "Korean", the remaining 20 by default, will be "American" (on b.net you're never really sure how many of whichever race of people there are).
3) Since it's such a small pool of "test subjects" you're margin of error will be .2 to .3 (20-30%) based on the standard statistical models on small test subjects. (which, BTW, is a very LARGE margin of error. Certainty principals dictate that a .01 or .005 margin of error can be considered "true")
You still with me? =)
To put simply:
Your approach at validating your statement "...as for telling the origin of someone from their Bnet name as 'childish', that is ridiculous" is indeed juvenile.
My point to all this is that you can't "judge a book by its cover". I can just as easliy act "Korean" using a smurf.
(!@!#Seoul : no rush
(!@!#Seoul : chobo
... and you'd believe that I was Korean.
And you'd be dead wrong because as I said before, I'm a Martian! =) |
| #43 Smoked Pork[3461] |
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Dear Etarenicni/PrinceCharming/Slicer,
First of all, decide on one name for the love of god. No one needs to know every handle you've ever had.
Secondly, you're dumb; Koreans were all over B.net way before StarCraft. |
| #44 shockwave[3524] |
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Yikes, statements in the vein of the ones above are what lead to attitudes like what happened in the Holocaust. Everyone naturally wants to make themselves look better than others: it helps us sleep better at night and feel good about ourselves, lets us place blame on others so we don't have to look at how truly horrible we all are. Human pride seems to be all about convincing ourselves that everyone else sucks except for our group so that we can feel more special about ourselves. People can turn racism, elitist factions, nationalism, religion, whatever, into tools to make them feel like they're something great. Even my own statement here rings of judgmentalism, making me a hypocrite; because in categorizing racism, I'm necessarily implying that I'm "beyond that" and better than the rest of humanity.
Sadly, the more we try to stereotype other people to elevate ourselves, the more we become victims of that ourselves. I've heard comments from people before like, "All computer game players are geeks, they're fat ugly guys who have no social life, wear thick glasses, and sit around wasting their time with their pathetic internet friends because they have no life. Even worse, not only do they waste their time *playing* games, but they even look on the internet to socialize about their strategies and write about their worthless games. What a bunch of losers, the girls I've seen who play Starcraft have faces that can derail a train. They think Koreans are racist because they cheat, you can't be much more of a lowlife than to hate someone for how they play a stupid video game."
Obviously this is not true of the Starcraft community, but it's dang easy and tempting for someone to place judgment like that. The fact is that -- in the end -- we all suck and we all deserve to be ridiculed because no one is perfect. The more we ridicule other people groups, the more ridiculous we make ourselves out to be.
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| #45 Johnny_Vegas[3526] |
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| Yes, I agree basically with what Shock says. A very wise comment... |
| #46 -stickman-[3585] |
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| yeah shock,well put. Uh...there seem to be a lot of posts in the comments sections that appear twice. Is this some kind a bug with the submitting (no criticism on the skills on the webmaster intended) or are people just careless? |
| #47 -stickman-[3586] |
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| yeah shock,well put. Uh...there seem to be a lot of posts in the comments sections that appear twice. Is this some kind of a bug with the submitting (no criticism on the skills on the webmaster intended) or are people just careless? |
| #48 -stickman-[3587] |
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| ;-Þ LOL. Hahaha. <b>MY</> comment ended up twice! That is definitely my fault cause i made a correction to the post(stuck in that extra 'of') and reposted. I thought i hit stop before the first one got out but it seems i didnt make it... |
| #49 -stickman-[3588] |
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| oops, on the 'my' was supposed to be in bold...i must have stuffed up the closing tag... |
| #50 -stickman-[3589] |
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| oops, only the 'my' was supposed to be in bold...i must have stuffed up the closing tag... |
| #51 -stickman-[3590] |
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| hmm...this just isnt my day! when i added the 'ly' to my 'only' it seems i was too slow hitting 'stop' again...hehe, ok ill stop taking up all this useless space now. |
| #52 Slicer[3591] |
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Yeah yeah Pork, yer right, everyone knows who I am by now. I abuse all the names because I feel like it and I like controversy.
And as for koreans being "all over Bnet", maybe there were some. But I played back in 1.00 and I assure you, WAY MORE of the games were in American!
And Shock, that's totally wrong. Most of the starcraft community is made of <b>skinny</b>, ugly geeks with no social lives. |
| #53 Slicer[3592] |
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Although arguing with idiots isn't my usual forte, I'm really, really bored.
Alita... sigh. I don't care HOW many fools you throw at me. 50, 100, doesn't matter to me. And in case you didn't notice, I'm talking about origin, not skin color. Anyone who's been on Bnet as long as I have can tell. Why? Because it's usually fucking obvious. There are some where I can't tell if they're koreans or just stupid americans, but those are in the minority. And yes, the name does indeed tell all.
Guidelines to finding a korean:
Use of [] brackets
Simple, non-SC words
Name that looks like a phone number
Name that looks like just random letters
Name with too many dots .......
^^ marks
The word jjang
...and a whole lot of other shit.
Also, an American name is far more likely to have the following characteristics:
Threatening name
A known clan insignia
Makes sense
Type /who brood war kor-3 and then /who brood war usa-3 and I assure you YOU WILL SEE THE DIFFERENCE.. |
| #54 BadGuy(tm)[3641] |
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| Whatever |
| #55 PeonRapist[3648] |
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| Americans are sick: look at my name =) |
| #56 Velociraptors[3652] |
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I've played with many many koreans over the past year and a half on starcraft, and many of them were the most polite people I've ever seen.
In ladder, I'm disconnected on more by 12 year old american pimples than koreans. Koreans HAVE disconnected on me before, but it is much rarer than people make it out to be.
Some of the nicest people I've met on battle net have been korean. I've had a few koreans say (in broken english) "you're the best!" and I've received numerous compliments of that nature from them. They're polite when they lose, they don't gloat when they win.
There are exceptions, of course, and the ì¤`£bÑ4bÄjÖ¼æ talk in the brood war ladder channel is annoying, but I've found americans to be much more snobby and pig headed.
have a day today,
Velociraptors |
| #57 ShySmurf[3654] |
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Oh Come On!! Battle.Net Is one of the places where <b>EVERYONE</b> Can play together, chat, learn more about someone's culture etc. etc. etc. U just can't stay Koreans Are Stupid And All just because a large # cheat. Some Koreans try to prove a point by not hacking. Its like Americans trying to show that they don't like BGH. We try to make a comment to everyone in the world of B.N that were all different.
I'm Guessing Battle.net doesn't want to add a "squelch All korean" button is because they want u to work in a place full of different races. There trying to create a new Earth. A place to have fun, meet someone new and much more.
Remember, People are different, don't be sterotype. Koreans may think all americans play BGH but theres always people who don't like it. Same idea goes to American POV toward Koreans.
ShySmurf
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| #58 kakaru[3657] |
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ok i will make this simple. people are people. because you have met koreans on bnet that disc on you does not mean all koreans disc. i have played @ssholes who are american. that does not mean all american's disc. you CANNOT make these generalizations about people from so few experiences. That is where rascism comes from. You people who believe this make me sick. that is all i will say on this subject, everything else has been beaten to the ground. if you honestly believe all koreans cheat and are evil YOU are the one who is evil.
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| #59 DarKnight[3681] |
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I totally hate racism! and don't u diss china OR America because i am from them both! don't make stereotypes about people also. i do have a threatening name and my b.net nick has a soon-to-be clan insignia but that doesn't make u right Slicer! don't hate races, but hate discers and hackers! (wow, that sounded like a racism forum)
get a life, the skin or race don't matter, it's what's inside. like an ugly old man can beat Slicer! |
| #60 Smoked Pork[3690] |
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| Wrong again, Slicer/Whoever/Whatever. B.net <I>did</I> exist before SC; in fact, it was around for at least a year before SC was released. |
| #61 Smoked Pork[3698] |
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Slicer/Whoever/Whatever...
There were plenty of Koreans on B.net for at least a year before SC was released. There was a period of about a month after SC's launch when no Koreans played because of a slight delay between the game's U.S. and international releases.
The main reason Koreans seem to "band together" against everyone else on B.net is because they actually are in the same room. The hundreds of "cybercafes" in Korea are a means to use computers and the internet in a nation in which it is rare for the average household to own a PC due to poverty and lack of electricity and telephone access.
This has the advantage of improving their skill as allies in a team game, as it's easier to play when you're in the same room as your teammates. It has the disadvantages of causing them to tend to group together and giving the impression that they're reclusive and snobbish. This is heightened by the fact that it's difficult for them to communicate with the majority of the internet community.
Most of the Koreans using the computers in the cybercafes to play SC and other games are young children. From what I've heard from older Koreans I've spoken with on the matter, the less-than-charming attitude of a lot of these kids has a lot to do with the fact that this is all new to them. Cybercafes started popping up in Korea in only the past several years, and for most Koreans it was the first place they ever used a computer. For many Korean children, the concept that they're actually communicating with other people is difficult to grasp - this is very new and unusual technology to them.
As other Koreans have put it to me, it's like an "Us vs. Them" scenerio...especially when "Us" consists of several people sitting in the same room on multiple computers and "Them" are only random opponents spread out who knows where all over the globe. Essentially the impact of communication with people they don't know and don't see doesn't instill them with the urge to use proper etiquitte when non-Koreans are concerned.
This isn't isolated to Koreans, unfortunately. The majority of English-speaking children I've met are catagorically a bunch of irritating little pricks - I'll never come kicking down their door to beat the shit out of them, so why act as you would in an actual encounter? The difference in this case is that these little bastards and bastardettes speak my language, enhancing their ability to annoy me. |
| #62 Turtled Terran[3732] |
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Man, you Americans suck. I play so many Americans and they ALWAYS lag the hell out of me, they ALWAYS end up lagging the game at the end and half the time they bloody well disc when i've kicked their ass.
How lame is that crap? It sucks, you beat em with a nice marine/medic rush while they're teching to DT and they disc on you. Worse yet, it takes you 20 minutes to do it cause they're running that b.s. lag hack non stop or pausing the game for some crap like "oh I gotta answer the door".
What a load. All you Americans are gay laggers, maphackers and you all suck as players too. I really don't know why some of you got in the b.net top 20 in seasons 1-2.. I reckon b.net probably gives Americans extra points to make the game popular early on. And they always come into the channel and flood with crap like "d00d", and "gay" and that stupid "8[".. I don't want to see it and its lowering the intelligence level of b.net in general with you idiots being allowed on it. You should be banned or given your own b.net, you sad bastards.
Turtled Terran
... by the way, this isn't a serious post. |
| #63 Slicer[3743] |
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Pork, I knew that. I played back in Diablo days. But the "release delay" is what I'm talking about - there were koreans on Bnet but no koreans in starcraft. (And no Koreans ever made their way to the Legit channel, so I didn't care.)
And the idea that other people are being communicated with is hard to think about for them? Then put on your Mr. Science hat, get out your chalkboard, and put a nice globe on the board with wires on it, showing where all the little long thingies go to all the other little kiddies in the world. If they still don't get the fucking hint, euthanize em. Recent events and the overpopulation problem have turned me into a strong supporter of eugenics in every country.
Besides, anyone see that little "T" thingie on the bottom right of a box of Starcraft? That rating isn't for content, guys. That rating is for what your mental age should be before you get on Bnet.
And I will admit, although most Koreans are pricks who can't speak English, way too many Americans are pricks that can't or choose not to speak English, favoring HaX0r-Sp33k, ebonics (sup, yall), and assorted gibberish. Exactly how hard is it to spell out "you", "are", and "anyone", anyway? And no, that has less to do with physical age than most people'd imagine. I knew a 14 year old (turned 15 recently) who was capable of making coherent, relevant, understandable sentences on a regular basis. I also know way too many fellow 17-year-olds who sound like they're on high doses of crack and barely able to type. Oh well. Didn't I tell you artificial selection was the answer? Everyone over the age of 12 with an IQ under 85... well, ever see "Soylent Green"?
But my point against the Koreans is that we should, indeed, give them their own server and disconnect it from the rest of the world. A few people may be whining (and maybe one day the koreans will figure out they have been disconnected), but for everyone else, the sighs of relief will be heard all across America, Europe, and even South Africa. |
| #64 14.4modumb[3755] |
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Chinese, Koreans, Americans, Canadians, Germans, whatever.
If you paid for the game, have a computer that meets the minimum system requirement, and have access to the Internet that process UDP packets, you have the RIGHT, listen, RIGHT to play on battle.net.
Those x®_Oµ&8Lë_45 are annoying though I agree, but do you suppose we need to force them to learn English just so that they don't annoy us on bnet? Com'on, none of us ownz bnet. |
| #65 DisgruntledApe[3772] |
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I am sure Larry-The-Weird, winner of the Korean PGL, doesn't leave in the middle of games. That's no way to work your way to the top of the ladder. He probably doesn't play on yellow-hunter. He most likely plays on PGL maps. (:
And as many people b4 me said, they have just as much right to play on battle.net as you do. If you don't like this for whatever reason then you can,
A) Play on a private server
B) Don't play starcraft
It's that simple. Ignore it or go someplace else.
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| #66 (=)BvG[3817] |
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Shit, I wish I could have postet the 50. comment. Now I post the 66. :P
This conversation shows two thing:
1. There are 2 type of Posters:
1. The Gamer he plays. He does't care if he plays a
corean, an american or a... bengalaa.
2. The fuckin incompetent lamer who can't believe that
People exists that doesn't speak english or have
warm meal triple a day.
2. All this Discusion doesn't lead to anything the lamer doesn't understand why poeples exists that don't kiss his feet and the Gamer isnt impressed by the sensles posts of the lamer.
maybe we should:
a.) change to a message bord
b.) talk about race imbalance (from SC you lamers)
greetings
(=)BvG |
| #67 Fweddo[4265] |
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| Haven't read all these posts, and not many will read this, but Koreans (I believe, am almost sure) are on average a lot smarter than your average American. I am not being racist, just going by the statistics. I think so, newayz. Correct me if I'm wrong (and no, I'm not Korean). |
| #68 Agamemnon(MT) (203.55.179.230)[5026] |
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I read with interest the posts above and was variously shocked, puzzled and amused by the content above.
Racists = EVERY race in the world has another race that they generically dont like...ie Koreans hate Japanese, Americans hate Russians (or used to), Chinese hate Koreans, Serbs hate Kosovars, Greeks hate MAcedonians etc etc ad infintum
Apparently the choice to hate is an age old thing and a less than desirable part of the human nature.
However, to pick on Koreans as being a race of disconnectors or cheaters is just lame and ignorant! It is simply a question of mathematics.
If 100 people play BW then a small percentage of those will cheat / hack / disconnect. (this is irrespective of race). Therefore, as there are HUGE numbers of Koreans playing BW, it stands to reason that there are potentially more actual disconnectors / cheaters out there!
And as for comments about the playing ability of the Koreans...i suggest some of you guys visit the Brood War KOR-1 channel and challenge some of the [B&G] or [ROKA] clan...and prepare to get your ass kicked! Koreans in general are much more passionate about the game and play it "Hard"!
And if you could just step past your xenophobic attitudes and ask pleasantly (and in simple english...be fair it is a second language) many koreans will be happy to play you.
No I am not Korean, I am Australian and I regularly play with or against the Koreans...and yes I have been disconnected by Koreans.
Go to Brood War KOR-1 and have fun! |
| #69 KoRnRuLz[FTL] (ppp30.bcpl.net)[6976] |
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| sIGH |
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| #72 Neal64[50947] |
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Americans:
I Had about 100 disc. from them
All of them r stupid and leave in ,middle of games
cant ally becuz some r newbies
and a few thousand really suck at starcraft
Just comparing that to that thing about koreans, u know that its true
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| #73 RaZaGhAx[74763] |
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why wasnt this report deleted?
(Today 11-25-00) Year 2000 baby =]
RaZ
I break this now
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| #76 _{Jester}_[95851] |
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| Don't even listen to those stupid semi-human yellow bastards. All they do is fuck each other blue so they can reproduce like rabbits. Its all their good for except for getting on their knees and begging for U.S. citizenship. All non-white people look the same. They all have brown eyes and black hair. The aryan (white) race is truly the superior one. |
| #77 _{Jester}_[95852] |
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| This is because unlike all other races, we have different hair like blond, red, and different shades of brown (not including black). We also have blue eyes, green eyes, and brown eyes where you all have just a shitty dark brown. Our skin also changes if we are hot or cold or if we're dead. But you always remain the same. You see, being a asian or black for example -ISN'T JUST COLOR- its a state of mind. Its not just skin, but hair, eyes, figure, and personality. All you non-white semi-human monkeys should either be slaves or be dragged out into the streets and shot and then have your bodies turned into soap and have your hair turned into socks. |
| #78 Lazer159[95853] |
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| SIEG HEIL |
| #79 Cowboy_bebop[130085] |
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ok there is one superior race.............. the horse shoe crab i mean come on look at his name he > you and you are inferior to him (oh gee if i didnt have last comment i would get flamed)
See you space cowboy..........
Cowboy_bebop |
| #80 rigbieys[145253] |
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OK, _{Jester}_, you are a gay ass. I'm Chinese, so you don't go picking on us just because you're a white bastard. I'm not talking about your race, I'm talking about you for being a damn racist.
PS: You reproduce like a rabbit. |
| #81 sum guy[148574] |
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| (> -.-)>-~ lolloololoolloloollolo |
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