| #1 Liu-Tek-Hua (dhcp9532178.columbus.rr.com)[17226] |
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| First comment , I rule ! Muwahahahhhhahaa |
| #2 tempest (RAS3-p14.pt.netvision.net.il)[17228] |
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you REALY should make the report again.
even I can see the HTML suck (no offends)
or mabey its my comp? |
#3 (staff-8.ahnet.net)[17230] |
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| The HTML is fixed.. now look at it. |
| #4 Willzzz (dns1.rhbnc.ac.uk)[17233] |
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| Mmmm saving what 40 minerals by building an assimilator instead of refinery, mmm. aaah terran own :) |
| #5 Pitt (res6486.student.nd.edu)[17234] |
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| Hey mark I noticed the team melee circles around the diff units. I had this idea for observing because I thought it was cool to see what units the player was selecting. Anyhow, is that really what was going on? oh yeah good br :) |
#6 (staff-8.ahnet.net)[17235] |
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| Mark4 won't be back for a few days.. he sent me this report to post for him so he won't be able to comment on it unfortunately. |
| #7 TheRubberDucky (dfiatx100-044.dsl.gtei.net)[17236] |
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| Thats too bad. I must complain that King-Lewis was making ducky-like threats to mark4's life. Only I can do that, or in some cases, if i permit, Possibly Persian~Pow, or Twip |
| #8 Dabel (r67h91.res.gatech.edu)[17237] |
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| LOL... i got to watch of ahscar's computer. This was a funny series of games. Nice report. |
| #9 TheRubberDucky (dfiatx100-044.dsl.gtei.net)[17240] |
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| Starcraft maphacks. |
| #10 Fractal_Wave (proxy1.gvcl1.bc.wave.home.com)[17242] |
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I love battlereports.com, and this is why.
All the best,
Fractal_wave |
#11 (staff-8.ahnet.net)[17243] |
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| Great report Mark. Even though all 3 were over quick, they where still full of strategy I can take away from the games. That's a mean MMF rush Ahscar's got there. I need to work on mine.. |
#12 (ncache1.ford.com)[17245] |
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| Excellent. I am partial toward short games. My favorite map is blood bath. I love the challenge of spanking the 4 or 6 pooler. My loss factor definetly goes up the longer the game goes. I guess I am poor at combining micro and macro. I'll often start an expansion have 2 or 3 drones, probes, scv's working, go fight a battle, defend somewhere, build a tech building, upgrade something, start another expansion maybe, and look back and still see 2 or 3 workers, when I could have had so much more cash. |
| #13 Moros (165.212.174.30)[17246] |
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I'm sorry, Mark4. But those were some pretty sucky games. Why didn't either one of these guys use a little defense? I realize it's quite an achievement to get an attack up so quickly. But this seems to be both the attraction and aggrivation with sc/bw. No early defense.
Oops. I'm being invited to defend my honor in a duke-fest. Gotta go. Good page. I'll be back. |
| #14 Warphead (johnny.bath.ac.uk)[17247] |
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LOL, I've only ever beaten King-Lewis once, and it was in a FFA. We were the two 'big guys' (he'd DT rushed someone and killed them, then I killed off the fourth guy's peon line with a nuke so he was kinda out of it for a long time) left at the end, but my 6-fact mass tanks and Gols beat his Templar and mass Scouts =]
I've never played Ahscar... =] I'd lose. Bad =D |
#15 (buri.campus.vt.edu)[17254] |
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| Interesting use of Team Melee for studying a person's micro. Nice reports. |
#16 (relay.atinc.com)[17259] |
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Mark4 and his freakin' road trip... snif... No one to yell at me in 2-2's until he comes back.
Good reports... I am proud to say I lost to a guy who lost to Xds'Grrrr. (in a 2-2) Aschar is good. I did some heavy damage to his infantry in the early game of that 2-2 w combinations of Toss units that included temps or d-temps.
Then he rolled over me with the most precisely executed tank push I've ever seen. I ran 12 speed upgraded zealots and 2 temps at him in one instance. Usually you can at least hurt a push with that, but he d-matrixed his spaced out tanks w 2 SVs and had marines/medics in perfect place to assist. I couldn't even get more than one useless storm off on him.
To Moros... defense? Lets say that King had got some cannons up... Aschar uses that to his advantage and expands like Whoop attached to a pressure pump.
That's the sucky part about 1-1 with good players... like martial arts experts, they don't piss around giving you black eyes. They win with one or two moves.
Sometimes you have to have a 2-1 with a good player to get a good game out of it. Er... |
#17 (dt030n35.tampabay.rr[17261] |
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| Nice report Mark, I feel I should be complaining about the shortness of the games, but I just liked it. Maybe it's because seeing lewis and/or ahs die is really really really fun. Right now I've got a badass rec of like 1-7 vs. ahs, but we all know that's because of his A-X brand hack, and I don't think I've ever 1v1ed lewis come to think of it, although we play a lot. |
| #18 T_Mac (on-tor-blr-a58-01-394.idirect.com)[17264] |
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| Whenever im not around, lewis does gay stuff like mass scouts or dt rushes. He needs me to win ;) |
| #19 Pika_Flare (Toronto-ppp80686.sympatico.ca)[17273] |
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| Uhhh...Mark I think you forgot the fact that I observed that 1v1 game on dire straits that you reported!!!! Yu should have included me!! |
| #20 Pika_Flare (Toronto-ppp80686.sympatico.ca)[17274] |
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| Uhhh...Mark I think you forgot the fact that I observed that 1v1 game on dire straits that you reported!!!! You should have included me!! |
| #21 shockwave (exchange1.sensable.com)[17278] |
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Team melee: can't you set it so that your first peons are all of the race you select? It realy throws off build orders if you have different races, not only because of the differences in build paradigms (e.g. always always warp an assimilator with your Toss probe), but because of supply issues since the non-dominant peons don't count toward supply. So you can get away with weird BO's such as 10th->depot :-b.
About building defense, I think it really marks a good game where you see little or light defenses. Stationary defense really IMO a security, not a necessity. Or said another way, if you map hack and can see your opponent's units, you should most of the time be able to build counter units that will do a better job. Of course, for those of us who are not omniscient, static D adds a sense of "just in case" security sometimes when you have no idea what might be coming :-). |
| #22 <img "/images2/n_fls.gif">[17280] |
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| cuz Ahs went random shock. =] |
#23 (fjwilson.reshall.uc[17284] |
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Heh. Right now I have a pleasant feeling of badass. I'm 2-0 vs Ahs. And I'm never playing him again (buck-buck-baKAK). Once in a 2-2 I knocked him out with a two transport M&M drop (he was Zerg). And once in a 3-3 when I nuke rushed, there the partners were a big difference.
AHS rules. |
| #24 Blank (95.hartford-10-15rs.ct.dial-access.att.net)[17310] |
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Always good to read a report where King Lewis gets owned;)
heheheheheh
W00T!!!:)
Blank |
| #25 King-Lewis (modemcable070.142-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net)[17337] |
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ACK ! he mentioned the 1st dire straight game. D'oh!. Losing to 4 zeals is so bad :[. GGs ahs lets play some more on bnet.
P.S T_mac should be ban from br.com for not playing BW anymore :)
Peace all, cya on bnet |
| #26 4world- (dialup-209.246.96.160.NewYork2.Level3.net)[17345] |
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| Nice report Mark. The best I have read. |
| #27 Hannibal (69user249.ctinets.com)[17360] |
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May be better if the map, Twisted Trail is put into the report. As we all know, map matters a lot.
Also am so happy to find another guy apart from Agent911 that says m&m is better than heavy metal. :) Cuz I do think m&m is better. :) |
| #28 Hannibal (69user249.ctinets.com)[17361] |
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In responce to shockwave, you can select team melee with one race only. Just have to change to that race and not leave at random.
About static D, sometimes it is neccessary. I mean in Ahscar's zerg game, he really should have had sunkens when he knows m&m are coming. |
| #29 Hooman (JIFFY-EXPRESS.MIT.EDU)[17362] |
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Just a question:
Turrets are much flimsier than bunkers; if you only have two dts and he has a bunker full of troops, why not attack the turret?
He still has his scan, but you can run in to draw scan and then run away, then go back in... |
| #30 Dev (reshall-138-179.oit.edu)[17367] |
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| Still gotta deal with the comsat. |
| #31 Ahscar-X (r67h92.res.gatech.edu)[17369] |
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Tee hee lewis. Nice report Mark, very precise and to the point, Marines and medics rule over double factory rush, I just feel it's more flexible.
Ahscar-X |
#32 (pool0269.cvx12-bra[17370] |
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| I'd like to point out that Ahscar upgrades attack first with him marines as all good terran players do. |
| #33 Candle (dyn16-202.trilogy.com)[17401] |
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Thanks for the reports. Just a suggestion for next time. If you do a team melee spectator I usually like to set all the races to be the same. You give up the opportunity to be "random' but in exchange you get a game that more clearly mimics 1on1.
When you start with 1/10 supply (instead of 4/10) and you don't have an SCV tied up building the gas-building it modifies the rush slightly so that Ahscar was slightly ahead of schedule. Granted his opponent probably got a similar advantage it's hard to determine exactly what the difference in game mechanics would have been. |
| #34 Ronin~ (stn29.esf.edu)[17405] |
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and i'd like to point out that as i said before, all great terran players can get away with weapons first, the rest of us just suck. GG's ahs and king. psst...ahs (even i can own king cmon man)
a couple other things,
all the links to old reports dont work for me, and i'm on a t1 right now so it's not connection crap.
and i think i should be interviewed...after all i am the arch~nemesis~ of BR.com
R~ |
| #35 HardDrive99 (eag40481.corp.novatel.ca)[17439] |
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Games between good players tend to be very short... take a look at the BRs from the last few B.Net tournaments that Blizzard did. Most game times averaged under 15 minutes...
HD |
| #36 The_Killer[82740] |
| cr136908-a.lndn1.on.wave.home.com |
| Where the hell! is the map hack! goddamnit |
| #37 The_Killer[82741] |
| cr136908-a.lndn1.on.wave.home.com |
I makin comments this is fun! Weeeeee!!!
Hahahaha!!!
Comments Rule!
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| #38 Obuibo[84541] |
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| Just wondering where your maphacks where got refered to your site but i cant find em. |
| #39 [97308] |
| tch1c019.chw.dowco.com |
DUDE I'M MAKING COMMENTS THIS KICKS ASS WHOES DA MAN I'M DA MAN LOL
OHH YEAH BY THE WAY DUDE WHERE THE HECK ARE UR MAP HACKS I CAN'T
FINDEM ANYWHERE |
| #40 {AoD}GT_DYNO2[97309] |
| tch1c019.chw.dowco.com |
DUDE I'M MAKING COMMENTS THIS KICKS ASS WHOES DA MAN I'M DA MAN LOL
OHH YEAH BY THE WAY DUDE WHERE THE HECK ARE UR MAP HACKS I CAN'T
FINDEM ANYWHERE |
| #41 |]agomar[108237] |
| StCatherines-ppp109087.sympatico.ca |
| I remember reading this but not commenting on it =[. This is some serious old school, and therefore automatically sex =]. |
| #42 Star_MackdEsE69[110640] |
| sc-sville-24-197-112-225.chartersc.net |
| If anyone has a map hack they would like to share please E -mail me so i can post it on my up and coming website. My E-mail is biggbennici@hotmail.com. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COORPERATION |
| #43 Star_MackdEsE69[110641] |
| sc-sville-24-197-112-225.chartersc.net |
If anyone has a map hack they would like to share please E -mail me so i can post it on my up and coming website. My E-mail is biggbennici@hotmail.com. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COORPERATION. MAY I ADD NO PHONY HACKS.THANK YOU
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| #44 the master44[151822] |
| AC9CD1BA.ipt.aol.com |
| whhen does the next starcraft come out because i unlock a new level and theres a new breed |
| #45 wakiki[154433] |
| cable-68-186-201-180.mtv.al.charter.com |
| Heh, I don't find short games interesting at all :( Oh well, still well written. Last. |
| #46 unknown[162415] |
| S0106002078d5bdb4.mh.shawcable.net |
| uall sucks at starcraft so stay off it noooowwww stupid noobs |