#1  [37098] |
| 98AB45D8.ipt.aol.com |
Everything will be all right...
Dref |
| #2 JPaikman/ObiWanJebroni[37100] |
| huru59.wuh.wustl.edu |
| Haha - almost first comment - caught myself this time |
| #3 [37103] |
| 98AB45D8.ipt.aol.com |
Uh oh, for you Nutscape users out there, I just realized I forgot my close table tag... so you prolly won't be able to see this unless someone in Admin fixes it... :(
Dref |
| #4 Peon_Harraser[37104] |
| spider-wq052.proxy.aol.com |
| Yes indeed it sucks to be Jimmy. At least he uses StarCraft to instead of crack. :) |
| #5 Sp|nE[37105] |
| dialup1439-pri.voicenet.com |
poor jimmy =(
what inspired this .. =| |
| #6 <FONT COLOR=0000FF>RS.anime(RS)</FONT>[37106] |
| sfe-nm6-127.ix.netcom.com |
| What a chobo, he managed to get 48 lings, yet he erected no defence or other structers. And that other guy what a chobo, in the time the other guy got 48 lings all he got was 2 reavers. I laugh at these newbies, and at Jimmy's crappy life. |
| #7 WilliamWC3[37107] |
| huru27.wuh.wustl.edu |
| Is this another, "The hacker among us"? Should I start guessing names? Or is this just trying to warn against the hazards of the hacking? Or pure fiction? I couldn't tell. Well written whatever it is. Good work Drefsab. |
| #8 Sp|nE[37108] |
| dialup1439-pri.voicenet.com |
| WilliamWC3 hacks |
| #9 [37109] |
| 98AB45D8.ipt.aol.com |
Perhaps I should have included this in the report:
<b>Moral:</b>
There's a story behind every lamer.
Dref |
| #10 WilliamWC3[37110] |
| huru27.wuh.wustl.edu |
| this is true. I am an E33t Hax0r so to speak. I hax my ass off. My favorite hax is power overwhelming. |
| #11 Fractal_Wave[37119] |
| 24.67.140.248.bc.wave.home.com |
This is me hoping there arn't actually people like that out there...but know that there are.
=[
Well done Dref.
plur
All the best,
Fractal_Wave
|
#12  [37124] |
| 11.crrg2.xdsl.nauticom.net |
It would have been even more ironic if, while Jimmy was trying to find Andy6 for another game, he heard a knock on the front door. Andy heard his mother open the door, and laugh a drunken greeting to her "guy friend". Andy ignored the sounds of kissing and laughing and the sound of the couch creaking rapidly for about 10 minutes, but then he heard his mother talking about him.
"All he ever does is play Starcreate... Spacecraft, I forget the name of it, and sometimes it gets him so upset," Jimmy's mother complained.
"Starcraft? I play that game. It's pretty fun, but some of the kids take it too seriously, talking shit about fucking each other's mothers and all sorts of insults."
Jimmy listened intently now. The guy, barely out of highschool, that his mother was seeing played Starcraft? Maybe he wasn't so bad after all... maybe he...
The boyfriend was talking again, "Yeah, I log on as Andy6, you should have your kid look me up online sometime..."
Jimmy's eyes grew wide as saucers... Nooo. NO! NOOO!
Hehee... great report Drefsab. |
| #13 Sp|nE[37126] |
| dialup1439-pri.voicenet.com |
erm YRM ... if Jimmy is 15, his mom is probably like 40 ... so why in gods name would she be nailing a kid that just got out of high school? =)
thats just unnatural man .. |
| #14 ed-norton[37129] |
| mkc-167-240.kc.rr.com |
| Jimmy needs to move out and get an apartment and a job. His mother should join AA and seek some sort of anti-abuse program; beating you children is wrong. The moral of the story is: play for fun, not rotten reasons like getting even and being a trash talking "your momma" loser-arse newb...hehe maybe that was too deep...well later... |
| #15 Mogalin[37131] |
| cgowave-0-224.cgocable.net |
| OMFG THIS BR IS BASED ON TOOL I KNOW IT! |
| #16 Oddjob0047[37132] |
| ts2-3.amery.spacestar.net |
| For some reason this just seems all-too-typical, I mean it's sad really that it is 100% believable...kind of depressing when you think about it, but I guess it makes SC that much better, eh? I mean, it's a way for kids like Jimmy to escape...and alot better of an escape than church or any of that stupid crap. Oh yeah, and YRM's ending was funny as hell. |
| #17 Oddjob0047[37133] |
| ts2-3.amery.spacestar.net |
| Oh yeah, give this an 11. |
| #18 Affire[37136] |
| CWIP-T-010-p-97-197.tmns.net.au |
| LOL @ YourRoleModel!!! |
| #19 I Hate Medics[37138] |
| ss6-10.inre.asu.edu |
This is one of the saddest BRs I've ever seen.. Even sadder than the time I lost like 38 mutas to 1 storm 'cause I looked away for 1 second. :(
But seriously, this is truely depressing considering alot of people have it like this. Is there going to be a sequal? That'd be cool. :)
Like, have Jimmy meet Grrrr..., and have Grrrr... teach him the importents of playing for fun.. Eventually Jimmy and Andy6 become friends.. Oh I love happy ending. :_)
Medics' |
| #20 -sexaholic-[37139] |
| 1Cust252.tnt9.alameda.ca.da.uu.net |
| UMMMMM. ..WHERE DID THE GOOD DREFSAB REPORTS GO???????? |
#21  [37140] |
| 24.24.166.145 |
Wow
Words cannot describe how hard i was laughing.
Then as I finally slow down I read YRM comment.
DOH!
HAHAHAHAHAHA |
#22  [37144] |
| dsl-gte-jr13661-1.linkline.com |
| I am Jimmy. |
| #23 Philip[37153] |
| 203.96.152.188 |
| 'twas a sad story |
| #24 Dr.Zchivago[37154] |
| proxy1-external.bremtn1.wa.home.com |
Drefsab, you are a totally unique individual. Your insight to this game is astounding.
Bah, a 6?
This is a true BR as seen from the eyes that actually play the game. Kudos to you, Dref.
(I just have to figure out if you were Jimmy or Andy6<i>!!</i>
-Dr.Z |
| #25 Robert Frazer[37155] |
| frazers.demon.co.uk |
Urnnnngghhhhhhhhhh...
This report reminds me of Moss-side down in Manchester.
Is this what the American 'People' are REALLY like?
Flip!
It's worse than I thought it would be. And THAT'S saying something.
This report wasn't very good, Drefsab. As -sexaholic- said: "WHERE DID YOUR GOOD REPORTS GO?"
Oh, and OddJob0047...
Yur atheist arse will never be safe from the hob-nailed boot of Retribution
-Robert Frazer-
I'm too lazy to add a quote
|
| #26 Baxter-O'Bixby[37158] |
| adsl-63-195-119-107.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net |
| Thanks, Dref. I will identify the next lamer I see with Jimmy, and perhaps try to feel some compassion for his hacking ass.... you've given us all a lot to think about. :) |
| #27 SuperGeneral[37160] |
| cr732571-a.pr1.on.wave.home.com |
| I enjoyed it. Not that it was funny, yet it is true :) |
| #28 Limp_Bizkit666[37164] |
| 199.182.54.98 |
wow. dref, i didn't know you had to go through all those stuff, just so you can imagine yourself caught in a world that has virtually unlimited money.. (BGH)
no wonder you are a big BGH fan..
*sob.
please yall....send money to dref. he is our friend and we should help him.
wow, thanks for sharing dref.
byeya
p.s-hehe, some wieerd ass shiznit. |
| #29 [37165] |
| 98A6952D.ipt.aol.com |
| hehe YRM, your ending is hilarious. |
| #30 [37167] |
| 98A6952D.ipt.aol.com |
Oh, and reports like this come from that fact that I still have 6 more days until I get this AOL infestation off my system... :(
Dref |
| #31 DarkHawke[37175] |
| 209.128.34.1 |
Nice report Dref, sad thing is that stuff like that does really happen? :|. It's sad really, that people just can't enjoy a game, but then again it's all because of their home life.
Well nice report, I think I know who your talking about. |
| #32 [37183] |
| 98AB0886.ipt.aol.com |
King, my point in this little bit of writing was to try and give a different perspective on the people we meet online. Every person acts the way they do for a reason.
I was actually trying to give one of many answers to your very broad question: "<i>Why do people insult others so harshly</i>"
Dref |
| #33 Dausuul[37191] |
| moola.tcom.purdue.edu |
Drefsab, you made a really good point here. What can you do in a situation like this? I mean, on the one hand, a lot of the lamers on b.net are kids who don't know any better, so I suppose you can't really blame them for being assholes.
On the other hand, that doesn't make it any less lame when somebody accuses you of hacking and then disconnects. |
| #34 TaLoN[37193] |
| cx110054-a.pwy1.sdca.home.com |
| Muahahah funny man =] |
| #35 SCV[37200] |
| c3-1a086.neo.rr.com |
this deserves more than a 6. Storytelling is one of the best ways to make a report great. A report doesn't need pictures, if it has a great story, and this has a great story. If i was a rater, i give this 8.
|
#36  [37207] |
| dt031nf7.tampabay.rr.com |
| that was just sad |
| #37 [37208] |
| dt031nf7.tampabay.rr.com |
| altho yrm's comment deserves a 10 |
#38  [37210] |
| HNW0511.RESNET-STUDENT.UPENN.EDU |
hehe
that was funny Dref. A creative and original one definitely!
and YRM definitely juiced up the rating with his ending! |
| #39 Name:[37211] |
| ny-amherst4a-104.buf.adelphia.net |
| I have to say, I don't care if that guy beats you by hacking and swears every other word he says. That battle report wasn't mean, cruel, and deplorable. I like crude humor as much as the next person, but making up the 'situation' for Jimmy was not the best idea. I was honestly offended to read this, and was surprised it wasn't screened by the site's maintainer. I would hope you're an ok person, so just... try not to be so "realistic" (though that's the wrong word). |
| #40 Name:[37212] |
| ny-amherst4a-104.buf.adelphia.net |
| first comment, and I've got a typo. It WAS those things. Again, I'm not insulting the creator, just lay back a little back, k? |
| #41 [z]MRHD[37213] |
| resnet180-39.resnet.buffalo.edu |
| Why should this be offensive to anyone? Reality isn't always pretty, and if you are under the delusion that it is, you are setting yourself up for a serious fall later on in life. |
| #42 WilliamWC3[37215] |
| huru27.wuh.wustl.edu |
I can understand why someone might have a problem with this report. For example someone in a situation like Jimmy's might resent the implications of it. Particularly if they didn't hack or curse people. Also though I'm sure it wasn't Dref's intentions some people are sure to draw paralells between some of the things in this report and things which have happened and are bound to take offense.
The idea behind this report is very good. Namely that one should find out where a "lamer" is coming from before one attempts to make his/her life miserable. However, some of the implications that people seem to be getting from this and which to me seems to be implied are dangerous. Namely, all / most "lamers" have a bad home life and a bad home life causes one to be a "lamer." (note I use to the term lamer loosely to refer to the type of kid Drefsab describes, hacks, curses others for no reason, discs, etc.)
Basically the report just unsettled me. The main reason I think is that it is a work of fiction and yet it is clearly implied that the story is factual. Perhaps this is based on personal experience. This would of course change everything although I think you should have made that clear.
Just my 2 cents. Again it is well written, whatever it is. |
#43  [37216] |
| 1Cust16.tnt1.rdu1.da.uu.net |
| Willy, a mark of a good story is that it affects you. |
| #44 WilliamWC3[37224] |
| huru27.wuh.wustl.edu |
Ya, Mark, I know thats why I said it was good writing. I just think it could be offensive. A lot of stories affect people. Some in good ways some in not so good ways. I just worry that this may affect peoples thinking too much. Not all lamers have home problems and not all kids with home problems are lamers. The story may not read that way but I think people will get that out of it and I just think its a little dangerous.
Personally, I am not too concerned but I understand why others might be. |
| #45 [37225] |
| 98CA5655.ipt.aol.com |
William, I would direct to comment #34.
One person asked the question "<i>Why do people treat others so harshly</i>"
Its funny that they would ask that question. Its a question with many answers. My story is one of those answers, not the <i>only</i> answer.
To quote myself:
"<i>I was actually trying to give one of many answers to your very broad question: 'Why do people insult others so harshly'</i>"
Of course this isn't the story of all lamers on B.net, just the story of one lamer. A lamer who may or may not exist, but probably does.
Cheers,
Dref |
| #46 [37226] |
| 98CA5655.ipt.aol.com |
Oh yeah,
Thanks for all the great comments guys. This was really something different for me. Most of you seemed to get something out of this so I guess it has served its purpose... :-)
Cheers,
Dref |
| #47 Sp|nE[37230] |
| dialup1709-pri.voicenet.com |
if it's so damn offensive, why dont you go into the corner and cry
but be careful, your drunken whore of a mom might hear you and take away the plug |
| #48 Krebster[37234] |
| spider-tl084.proxy.aol.com |
hilbs is jimmy and i am andy6
btw spine jimmy's mom is around 35 not 40 but she has the stamina of a 20 year old ;] |
| #49 <FONT COLOR=0000FF>RS.anime(RS)</FONT>[37287] |
| sfe-nm6-219.ix.netcom.com |
| Beavis or butthead? |
| #50 Darth~Gracie[37295] |
| 45.middletown-07.va.dial-access.att.net |
| My wife is a guidance couselor. There really are a lot of messed up kids out there like Jimmy. I guess, the really scary ones are playing FPS games not Starcraft. Just goes to show, we don't know the life stories of the people we play with or against. Be kind to others, you don't know what kind of impact you have on others. That kid you called a lamer might end up shooting up a school somewhere because you pushed him over the edge. Anyway, good story Dref, that is somebody's reality. |
| #51 XEBYS[37333] |
| spider-pa014.proxy.aol.com |
Where you one of the programmers for the original forum section for this page or something Dref? I had to select all the text to read the bottom part:
Well, anyway, twas a wonderful and creative story, and i loved YRM's ending.
And why am i always last to get in a comment?:( |
| #52 WildCard[37434] |
| proxy2-ams.sonera.nl |
| LOLZ!! |
| #53 Jimmy[37440] |
| djarnis.egmont-kol.dk |
I don´t hack!!
%¤"!¤#"&#&¤#&( |
| #54 [z]RubberDucky[37450] |
| crtntx1-ar3-098-206.dsl.gtei.net |
| DREFSAB = JIMMY! |
| #55 [37457] |
| ABD2ADB8.ipt.aol.com |
hey Ducky, leave me alone, just because your sorry home schooled ass has such a happy go lucky life...
hehe
Dref |
| #56 BW-sux[37528] |
| spider-wb083.proxy.aol.com |
| The report was so touching, so heartful, so... hilarous!! It wouldn't suprise me that hilbs is Jimmy. YRM's ending was so cool. And AOL sux! I want a new ISP now!!! |
| #57 Pitt[37531] |
| res6486.student.nd.edu |
| ROFL if you find this report offensive then you better just realize that you suck ass! AHHHH HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA YRM's comment is the best. I swear to god I hate logging onto b.net and hearing all that flaming shit. ROFL! FUCK YOU DREFSAB I OWN YOU YO!!!! *logs off of aol because mom is hitting him* |
| #58 shockwave[37536] |
| exchange1.sensable.com |
Hey guys.
First, I thought the story was well written. There are two ways to react to this, which determines whether you're offended in the end.
One is to get the implication that all those AOL lamers are just pathetic kids with no lives. If Dref had ended the report like YRM suggested, it would have clearly given that impression that the purpose of the report was just to make fun of those kids and their pathetic lives and their pathetic attempts to gain credibility on b.net.
The other - and I think less common - reaction is to say that some of the people we play on b.net who swear and cuss us out really deserve our pity, because their real world lives really are that bad and this is their only recourse for staying sane. There is no doubt in my mind that some kids or even adults are like this in real life (getting into flame fests with adults who say they're in their 30's but just swear like kids and say stuff like, "Come on, just rematch me and I'll kick your !@##$ *ss" is just really really sad).
Or to put it another way - If you played some kid and he starts cussing you out in the end, then you found out that in real life, he was like this, how would you respond?
1) "Hahaha, your life sucks, I'm surprised natural selection didn't weed you out yet. You can't play Starcraft, and your real life sucks beyond belief. Go ahead and flame, but it must be sad not to have any friends, huh?"
2) "Man, I'm so sorry that whatever you're going through must drive you to do this. Let's talk."
Uhh, I'm not a great humanitarian all the time, so my reaction often is just to flame back when I'm flamed. It is easy to make implications about peoples' real lives and I'm sure some people *are* like Jimmy in RL or at least don't have many friends (hence, they spend all their time online and take the game that seriously). It's easy to laugh at them and say, "Must be fun sitting in front of the computer flaming people when you lose because you have no friends, huh?"
Some people read on my forum already about this kid who started cussing me out about how he was going to break my neck (I'm a black belt instructor and know 6 martial arts) and how I probably don't can't even add or do calculus (I have a summa cum laude master's degree from MIT in EECS). Heh, the problem is, when you, err, KNOW that you're better than them, it's easy to want to shove it down their throats, which will in the end just make them feel even worse if they're already bad off enough.
*sigh* Oh well, I know that not all people will have the same reaction, but reading this just gives me more incentive to try to be more sympathetic to the kids that flame me on b.net, whatever that means concretely.
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| #59 BW-sux[37580] |
| spider-wm066.proxy.aol.com |
| Just for the record: "Jimmy" is not me. Yes I use AOL (hate it, so slow, so busy), but that does not make me an AOL lamer. I have never used a hack, and I have never flamed someone for owning me at the game. My mom teaches alternative education (the bad kids and the ones that fail classes) and my dad is at the dinner table every night and is teaching me how to drive stick shift. |
| #60 Aquamarine[37846] |
| cthulhu.static.shore.net |
Man i feel sorry for Jimmy and his loser life; at the beginning i was hoping he was a good starcraft player to make up for his lousy life but that was not to be; i almost liked him until he used the hack..
DAMN his life sucks; AOL, drunk mom, and crappy comp. |
| #61 WarLeaderJustin[46893] |
| spider-wg033.proxy.aol.com |
Even though no one is probably reading these comments anymore, I just want to let you know Dref. that I am 13. I found this "BR" incredibly stereotypical of young people. I may not be the normal teenager one finds on B.net, but you shouldn't judge us as a whole.
On a depressing note, I have AOL, am 13, and have a 233 Megahertz computer. BUT my mom's not an drunkie!
Otherwise, nice insight on immaturity that really bogs down B.net. |
| #62 [54300] |
| as530025.infocom.com |
This was a story of <b>one</b> lamer on B.net. Its not meant to be stereotypical at all.
The Internet is a cruel place where people say many things that they would never say in real life. I just want those who read this little story to remember that there is a real life behind every lamer on the Internet.
Cheers,
Dref |
| #63 [54301] |
| as530025.infocom.com |
Shock, I know you won't see this because this report is long gone into the battle report archives. But in case anyone else happens to read this comment section, I want to make sure that they understand that your reaction was the exact reaction that I was going for. You said it so much better than I ever could have... :-)
Cheers,
Dref |
| #64 Herminator[57437] |
| px1cl.gv.wave.shaw.ca |
| Hey, i'm still reading, the new one with kerrigans religion, comments section mentioned this, so i went back to re-read it, just great stuff here |
| #65 Snork~Dimmy[66036] |
| async223-per2-isp-3.nas.one.net.au |
| OMG funny shit on the comments, damn YRM u kicked ass up there. I only read this bcz i followed the link from that comments section u posted in Dref, I hadn't read some of ur earlier work, but i like this. |
| #66 unown[97989] |
| h128.s162.ts31.hinet.net |
This is the worse site i ever gone to.
stupid! stupid! stupid!
From:Unown! $_$ !_! #_# *_* @_@ ^_^ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| #67 Goku[102162] |
| 166.66.202.20 |
i lost to Zerg Muta w/scourge rush, when i had Sairs + Cannon.
> > > > > > > > i Am Sad, i feel like killing myself =( |
| #68 jimmy bun sasage[120313] |
| c24.196.50.205.stc.mn.charter.com |
why don't they just post hacks on here because this come up when i search for them!!!!!!!!!!!!! PISSA
|
| #69 Jibbadadadoh[124993] |
| pppoe-64-91-100-164.rb.gh.centurytel.net |
| im jimmy.... except for the hack part.... and the drunkeness..... and the aol..... and the door mat.....and the windows 95....and the comp.....and the bus..... and the ciggiretes.....and the lamerness.....and the squelching.....and the lings..... |
| #70 jimmy[131725] |
| 144.138.240.159 |
I am jimmy. LOOK AT MY NAME!!!
and ROFL @ #69 you are a fag.
-NOTjimmy |
| #71 rigbieys[144866] |
| bbcache-15.singnet.com.sg |
| Your name doesn't begin with a capital letter tho. |
| #72 A bjtgfhnkfl;[149271] |
| cache-ra01.proxy.aol.com |
| mfgnlktyntyjktym |
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