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| Pillars v. Andrei, with Pillars interview | | | Author: | | | IP: | spider-mXXXX | | Date: | 12/19/00 08:12 | | Game Type: | Starcraft | | Labels: | none | | Report Rating: , # of Ratings: 4, Max: 9, Min: 8
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At first I wasn't
going to report this game, but the player's are top
level, and there were a few battles and a strategy or
two that were really awesome.
A few days before
I'd seen TillerMaN on, and hoped to report on his game
with (orky)Andrei. Unfortunately for me the game was
already full with observers, but Andrei later told me he
won zvp against Tiller, so I knew he was a pretty good
player.
Anyways I get on, do /who clan -x17. and
see Andrei in there. I join the channel, and ask if he'd
play for a BR. He agrees, and I do a few /whois's of
famous players whom you all would enjoy seeing in a
report. I see Maynard's on, and I message him. He
doesn't respond, but soon {PH}Pillars enters the channel
after finishing a 2v2, and I message him asking for a
game I could report with Andrei. He agrees and makes on
PGL Lost Temple. I quickly minimize to clear out my
directory, and when I return the players begin.
Pillars of course
chooses Protoss, and warps in as red at the 3:00
position, while Andrei
randoms to blue Zerg at the 6:00 position.
First, a bit of background on these two players.
{PH}Pillars: Most of you already know him, and
if you do, you know he has been a top player for years,
and has travelled to Korea as a pro gamer for three
months with X'Ds~Grrrr..., Maynard, {PH}Thor, and other
great BW players. Before he took a hiatus from playing,
he was recognized as the best Protoss player in the
world. Some of his awards are...
4th Place in PGL
Season two, $2,500 and computer.
1st Place Battletop
tourney NYC, $3,500
3rd Place Broodwar.com tourney,
$300
Played in tournaments in Korea, also played on
TV shows, etc.
KBK #3 Seed, top 32 overall season
two.
Read the interview at the end of the report for
more information about Pillars.
(orky)Andrei is
a Russian player, and unfortunately I don't know too
much about him. He plays with other members of (orky),
Priest and Element mainly, so he has to be good. =]
The build orders look like this...
I
think Pillars begins
warping in a zealot before he warps in a second pylon,
and sends it down along with a feisty probe to try to
prevent Andrei taking his
natural. Pillars keeps his
scouting probe at the bottom of the map, to scout for
him later.
Before Andrei's Hatchery at his
expansion morphs in he begins morphing another one above
the first. Pillar's probe and zealot attack that one for
a while, but Pillars soon
notices this, and sends them to attack the one that's
almost done.
Andrei's Spawning Pool soon
finishes morphing, and he immediately hatches two lings.
Andrei  begins sending those lings down to kill the
probe, which arrives first, but then sees the zealot
following the probe, and Andrei stops the lings below
his ramp. He then hatches two more, and they are enough
to make the zealot and probe retreat.
Andrei's Hatchery finishes
morphing, and after he maynards a few of his drones to
his expansion he throws down a Sunken between the gas
geyser and his Hatchery.
Now Pillars begins to macro, and
pumps nonstop zealots out of two gateways, not even
pausing to make a Cybernetics Core before he has eight
zealots stationed outside Andrei's base. At that time
Andrei has only eight
lings and two sunkens to defend against an attack.
Pillars did not
attack however, and continued pumping out zealots and
probes, stopping only to warp in an assimilator. Andrei has overlords in Pillars base and above his
zealots. It's suprising that Pillars didn't pause his zealot
production to make just one dragoon to drive away the
ovie, but it's even more surprising that Andrei knew he wouldn't stop
his zealot production, and keeps his overlords in
Pillar's base.
Pillars now feigns toward Andrei's base with his zealot
force, and Andrei quickly
pulls about 4 drones off mining to help thwart the
attack. Pillars then pulls
back, and Andrei's drones
go back to harvesting minerals. Pillars once again feigns, but
this time marches right into Andrei's base. The zealots
don't stop to attack the lings at first, as Pillars probably tries to run
the zealots right up the ramp to Andrei's main, and destroy his
tech buildings. The zealots soon see the lings and
sunkens will inflict too much damage, and won't be able
to deal that much damage themselves before being overrun
by lings, and they stop to attack at the natural. The
zealots kill 2-4 lings, but not before losing two of
their own, and decide to pull out to muster up another
attack. The zealots retreat with 6 remaining, but the
last zealot lags behind a little, and bursts into blue
flame from a fleshy spike.
Pillars contines rallying his
zealots outside Andrei's
base, and Andrei throws
down another sunken.
Now time for a quick base
update...
Pillars now begins warping in a
Citadel of Adun, deciding to tech to templars. Pillars also sends in the probe
he's had hidden into Andrei's base. He gets a good
look at the shiny new Hydralisk Den, and the Hatchery
morphing into a Lair. There's a lull for a bit, with the
only micro coming from Andrei's base, where Pillars is trying to keep his
poor probe alive. Pillars
also warps a Templar Archives in after the Citadel is
done "rifting", while Andrei evolves Lurker aspect.
Pillars has now
mined sufficient minerals to warp in a Forge, and he
throws one down under his minerals. His probe is also
still alive in Andrei's
base, but it is not Andrei's main priority as his
hydra/ling/lurker strat has already been revealed. Pillars now pulls his zealots
back, and in a neat trick sends only four of them within
a hovering overlords sight range outside Pillar's choke,
so Andrei will think
Pillars still has his
zealots nearby. Pillars
also takes his natural now, knowing Andrei will be on the defensive
for a while now. Pillars
also sends in a suicidal probe to scout out Andrei's forces, so Pillars knows what he must
match. The probe runs into seven hydras and as many
lings, and it also reassures Pillars that Andrei has not changed his
strategy.
Pillars
is now sure his unit power is equal to Andrei's, and he decides to
expand to his natural.
Andrei contines moving his
forces after killing the probe, and they end up outside
Pillar's base. Pillars
tries to catch Andrei off
guard with a DT, but the ovie above the ledge
overlooking Pillar's natural catches it. Pillars now discovers Andrei has already made a few
lurkers, or rather his DT discovers that. Pillars runs the DT past the
lurkers, and it barely survives. Pillars sends it on scouting
runs to the 9:00 main and natural, where it slices up
two drones real nice.
Pillars is now aware of the
lurker threat, and after his third Gateway warps in, he
opens the rift for a Robotics Facility. Andrei has also added a few
buildings to his base, in two Evolution Chambers and a
morphing Queen's Nest.
Andrei now makes it evident
that he's researched Ventral Sacs, and loads up four
hydras and drops them off over Pillar's natural. He then
morphs them into lurkers, but Pillars already has an
observatory, with an observer morphing in. They hatch,
and Andrei burrows them
so only one can be hit by a storm.
Pillar's
first observer rolls out of the RoboFac, and a shuttle
is immediately warped in. Around the same time Pillars begins losing probes at
his natural, Andrei drops
two more lurkers already morphed in Pillar's main. They
quickly burrow, and because of the lack of cannons,
Pillar's observer slowly creeps over to the mineral
patches. The latency was set on extra high, because I
lag like hell, and Pillars
loses probes that probably wouldn't have been lost on
low latency.
Dragoons quickly kill the lurkers
burrowed in Pillar's main, but a shuttle still has not
popped out, and Pillar's mining time at his natural is
now non-existant. Andrei
takes this time to start a Hatchery at his mineral only
expansion, as well as the 9:00 main.
Pillar's
shuttle finally pops out, and he loads it up with two
goons. He lets them off at the edge of his cliff so they
can engage the lurkers one at a time. Andrei realizes what's going
on, and he unburrows the closest one to the goons after
the first one dies and reburrows it near the other two
still burrowed. Andrei is
just trying now to make the lurkers as cost effective as
possible, knowing he can't load the lurkers up in the
ovie and get away safely without speed. After killing
the first two lurkers both of Pillar's goons are in the
red. Pillar's moves those two back, loads up two more in
a shuttle, and drops them next to the two already up
there. Pillars loses only
one goon to this, and soon after his probes go back to
mining.
Andrei
continues with his semi-containment, and sends two
drones to the 9:00 main, and while one begins morphing
into a Hatchery near the minerals, the other one morphs
into a Hatchery above the ramp overlooking the choke.
Andrei's hive has
finished now, and he begins researching adrenal glands
for the now 1/1 lings to complement the 0/1 hydras.
Pillars is now at
+1 attack, and decides it's time to attack. The lurkers
outside his base quickly die to goon fire and psi
blades, and Andrei sends
in forces from both above Pillar's base and from his
own. I'll let the pictures tell what happened during the
battle, but to make a long story short, temps own ;]
Wave
after wave of lings come, but Pillars has summoned an archon
from two energy drained templars, and it decimates the
lings.
Pillars
moves his forces down to Andrei's mineral only, and the
archons, goons and zealots continue to rape the lings
with the help of psi storm. Pillars gets rid of the lings,
and takes down the Hatchery. Andrei continues sending lings
however, but now that Pillars has 3 archons, Andrei has to think of
something fast.
Pillars now has map control, and
decides to expand to 12:00's natural, but Andrei has a lurker buried on
the ramp, and sees the probes go by. He waits until
there are about 10 probes, and burrows right outside the
mineral line.
The
lurker is soon dealt with though, and the probes go back
to mining.
Andrei's sunkens are the only
defense he has right now, but Pillars pauses to scout the 9:00
position. He finds Andrei
trying to expand to it's natural, and after killing
that, Pillars retreats
from the two sunkens overlooking the ledge. Pillars brings a shuttle over,
and makes about four trips, loading up units, and
dropping them on top of the ledge out of the sunkens
range, and Andrei's
sight. After Pillars has
unloaded four zealots, two temps, two archons, a goon
and a DT, he takes down the Hatcheries.
I
know ask if I can clear out the directory. Pillars agrees, and I clean it
out. I maximize the BW window again, and the Defeat
window has come up. Thinking I've been dropped, I take
one last SS, and get only the overview scores.
I
message Andrei asking him
what happened, and he informs me that the lag was bad,
and he knew that Pillars
had map control, so he'd consented the game.
This game was fun to watch, both because of
great players, and seeing a toss win in a PvZ. Both
players had excellent recon, and Pillars played the matchup
exactly the way it needs to be played to win.
Now for the interview. This isn't like the one
with JustifiedStrife, mostly because Pillars knows he
has an image to hold up. I asked basically the same
questions, but I also asked about more players. I'm
doing it in text again, because it was about 12
screenshots, and I asked him about a few players on AIM.
Anyways, enjoy!
Joining channel
xld.aldogrez: hi
{PH}Pillars: hi
{PH}Pillars: :)
{PH}Pillars: long time hehe
{PH}Pillars: sorry
xld.aldogrez: =]
xld.aldogrez: np
xld.aldogrez: alright
xld.aldogrez: ready?
{PH}Pillars:
yah
xld.aldogrez: name
{PH}Pillars: Christopher Zielin Page
xld.aldogrez: oo, middle name
{PH}Pillars: yes =]
xld.aldogrez: age?
{PH}Pillars: 19
years old.
{PH}Pillars: 21 Korean years.
xld.aldogrez: hehe
xld.aldogrez: college?
{PH}Pillars: yah
xld.aldogrez: which one?
{PH}Pillars: I go to Brandeis University in
Massachusetts...
xld.aldogrez: ohh
xld.aldogrez: im doing this kinda
informal
xld.aldogrez: sorry
bout taht
{PH}Pillars: yah.
{PH}Pillars: haha
it's ok
xld.aldogrez: got a
car?
{PH}Pillars: yah.
{PH}Pillars: i do.
xld.aldogrez: make/model?
{PH}Pillars: errrrrr
xld.aldogrez: year
{PH}Pillars:
toyota corolla '92?
xld.aldogrez oo, nice
{PH}Pillars:
IS THIS IMPORTANT INFORMATION??
{PH}Pillars: :O
xld.aldogrez: hehee
{PH}Pillars: er, it's just a car :D
xld.aldogrez: k
xld.aldogrez: a few serious questions
{PH}Pillars: ok.
xld.aldogrez: best toss, zerg, ran and
random players?
{PH}Pillars: hm.
{PH}Pillars: So
hard to say.
{PH}Pillars: There are so many good
players out there.
xld.aldogrez: yeah, true
{PH}Pillars: And many of them I don't play anymore.
{PH}Pillars: Especially Korean players.
xld.aldogrez: just dont get to?
xld.aldogrez: or wont?
{PH}Pillars: I don't get to. I also haven't been
playing that competitively lately. Sorta stopped playing
for awhile.
{PH}Pillars: So, I'm not as sure who the
top players are anymorej
{PH}Pillars: I know Slayer
is great. :-].
xld.aldogrez:
zerg guy? (God I sounded stupid)
{PH}Pillars: eh, he
plays all.
xld.aldogrez: ok
xld.aldogrez: have you heard
about intotherain?
{PH}Pillars: yah i have.
{PH}Pillars: Supposedly a very good Korean toss
plater.
xld.aldogrez: know
anyone whos played him??
xld.aldogrez: yeah
{PH}Pillars: I
have played him in the past, but he wasn't as good then.
{PH}Pillars: He's improved a bunch from what it
sounds like.
xld.aldogrez: i
see
xld.aldogrez: play
lustedsmurf at all?
{PH}Pillars: yah i used to
{PH}Pillars: he's also a very strong player.
xld.aldogrez: yeah
{PH}Pillars: not very well known either
xld.aldogrez: have you played grrrr...
or any other well known gamers that are in korea now
(asdfsfd, I sound like a dumbass again)
{PH}Pillars:
er, yes i have. I was in Korea with them all not too
long ago ;]
{PH}Pillars: I've played Grrrr many
times in my life.
{PH}Pillars: It's understood
that's he's one of the better players ever to play the
game
xld.aldogrez: yeah
xld.aldogrez: theres one
other sc player
xld.aldogrez: i wanted to ask you
about
{PH}Pillars: ALright
xld.aldogrez: im trying to think of
his name
{PH}Pillars: heh.
{PH}Pillars: Korean
player?
xld.aldogrez: then a
few not serious questions
xld.aldogrez: dont think so
xld.aldogrez: i think hes from US
{PH}Pillars: hm.
{PH}Pillars: Jester?
{PH}Pillars: Myst?
{PH}Pillars: Jolly?
xld.aldogrez: kakaru
{PH}Pillars:
er
{PH}Pillars: that's his name? :]
xld.aldogrez: he was in 1st
{PH}Pillars: oh
xld.aldogrez: i havent seen him for a
while
{PH}Pillars: MM yah I don't know him very
well.
xld.aldogrez: but i
know he was pretty good
{PH}Pillars: I see.
xld.aldogrez: what about
[o]mr.xld.aldogrez:
{PH}Pillars: Never had the oppurtunity to play him.
{PH}Pillars: Mr.xld.aldogrez: is pretty good zerg
player as well :].
xld.aldogrez: have you played him
lately?
{PH}Pillars: Nah, again, haven't really been
playing too much.
{PH}Pillars: But I played him a
lot during the last season of KBK.
xld.aldogrez: how long have you been
doing kbk?
{PH}Pillars: Past two seasons I've played
in it.
xld.aldogrez: alright
xld.aldogrez: two OT
questions
{PH}Pillars: ok.
xld.aldogrez: your stranded on an
island
xld.aldogrez: what 3
people would you want to be stranded with?
{PH}Pillars>: Hm.
{PH}Pillars: That is a very
difficult question.
{PH}Pillars: My sister.
{PH}Pillars: Would be one.
xld.aldogrez: ok
{PH}Pillars: Hm.
{PH}Pillars: Not sure about the others :-]
xld.aldogrez: alright
xld.aldogrez: one more
{PH}Pillars:<{PH}Pillars>: Close friends or
family.
{PH}Pillars: Perhaps.
xld.aldogrez: yeah
xld.aldogrez: if you could be a fly on
the wall anywhere, where would you be?
Some people
ask for 2v2...
{PH}Pillars:<{PH}Pillars>: Fly
on the wall..........
{PH}Pillars: Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
xld.aldogrez: haha
xld.aldogrez: good question eh?
(me=stupid...again)
{PH}Pillars: We're talking about
current day?
{PH}Pillars: Or any time in history?
xld.aldogrez: hrm
xld.aldogrez: both
{PH}Pillars:
Mm.
{PH}Pillars: Well.
{PH}Pillars: I think I
would have loved to be alive when Plato was living his
life.
{PH}Pillars: :-]
xld.aldogrez: yeah
{PH}Pillars:
Would have been amazing.
{PH}Pillars: Current day,
I'm not sure.
{PH}Pillars: Somewhere.....outside of
the US.
{PH}Pillars: Just somewhere new.
xld.aldogrez: heh, yeah, i understand
taht
xld.aldogrez: umm...i
think thats it
{PH}Pillars: ok :-]
{PH}Pillars:
thanks :-]
xld.aldogrez:
could you send me a thing of sc things youve won?
{PH}Pillars: BYE SIR!
xld.aldogrez: email?
xld.aldogrez: hehe
{PH}Pillars:
hmmmm
{PH}Pillars: heh
{PH}Pillars: ok it's
########@aol.com
{PH}Pillars: is my email
xld.aldogrez: alright
xld.aldogrez: thx a lot
{PH}Pillars: so
{PH}Pillars: so email me
xld.aldogrez: k
{PH}Pillars: and i'll email u back with SC
accomplishments
{PH}Pillars: ok
{PH}Pillars: :-]
I later asked him about a few other players...
Thor was my old nemesis. We played a LOT of
Starcraft games against eachother. He helped make me a
better player. We also got into some verbal fights on
b.net a lot =]. But, after we met in Korea, and spent
time with eachother, we became friends. I like the boy
:-)
Montaro and I used to play crazy games on
Dire Straits back in season three and four. He was the
only terran player who had any chance of beating my toss
on dire, and I was the only toss player who could beat
him :].
Tillerman is a very strong RTS player.
He was respected back when he played War2, and has been
a consistently top player when he's chosen to during the
2 1/2 years that Starcraft has been out. He was a top
player when I first started playing, and he still is
today.
Fennec-The-Fox is a not that well known
zerg player. I've never played him in any matchup
besides my Protoss vs. his Zerg, but he plays the
matchup very well.
TheMarine, I think he's a
Korean terran player, yes? I haven't had much contact
with him, and don't believe I've ever played him.
Mark4, I've talked with him briefly once or
twice. Seems like a very nice guy :). Can't really
comment on his Starcraft ability, but he writes a nice
battle report, heh.
Now that Mark will give me a
high rating because I included him in this BR, and cause
"we used to drink 40s in the hood", the report is done.
I hope you enjoyed it, and please comment.
--xld.aldogrez
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